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Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
Double-check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTAs confuse booking classes on some airlines.
Post as much detail as possible about the First/Business fare, including: fare class, fare basis, one-way/round-trip, sales channel, sample dates and total price (including taxes).
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The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain point of origin, and only very rarely work in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
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Last but not least: don't call the airline!

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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Jun 10, 2014, 1:36 am

#1771

abrelosojos

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: MXP

Programs: SQ-S.PPS, DL-G, NW-G, BD-G, US-G, UA-GS

Posts: 661

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatseatlover

DEL-LAX
$1603 July 2 sample
Business Saudia Arabian Airlines

Where can one book this?

Jun 10, 2014, 2:23 am

#1772

ben63

Join Date: Mar 2013

Location: VIE, BUD, PRG

Programs: LH SEN, DL Plat

Posts: 332

Quote:

Originally Posted by KU104

QR DXB-DOH-HND
Books into I class and the intra-gulf legs in A for 1685USD. Nice fare to try the 787.

Dates in September widely available with 3day minimum stay.

Or you can get DXB-KMG-SHA-TYO r/t from 910 USD in business on China Eastern.

Jun 10, 2014, 3:20 am

#1773

armagebedar

Moderator, All Nippon Airways and Japan

Join Date: Sep 2005

Location: TYO

Programs: NH SFC (*G), JL JGP (OWE), AS MVP, WOH E, IHG SE

Posts: 3,908

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben63

Or you can get DXB-KMG-SHA-TYO r/t from 910 USD in business on China Eastern.

...and since DXB-KMG only operates twice a week, that explains the price difference!

Jun 10, 2014, 7:56 am

#1774

TravelingRabbit

Join Date: Dec 2013

Posts: 234

Quote:

Originally Posted by abrelosojos

Where can one book this?

Found it on kayak.

Checked mid August and Thai is $1882. Cathay $2274. Qatar $1964. I just booked first via points instead

Jun 10, 2014, 10:00 am

#1775

skunker

Join Date: May 2006

Location: SAN

Programs: Lots of faux metal

Posts: 6,416

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben63

Or you can get DXB-KMG-SHA-TYO r/t from 910 USD in business on China Eastern.

Quote:

Originally Posted by armagebedar

...and since DXB-KMG only operates twice a week, that explains the price difference!

Or the fact it is on China Eastern.

Jun 10, 2014, 11:33 pm

#1776

ben63

Join Date: Mar 2013

Location: VIE, BUD, PRG

Programs: LH SEN, DL Plat

Posts: 332

Philippine Airlines promo MNL-LON r/t 1294USD and several other destination

Philippine Airlines promo MNL-LON r/t 1294USD and several other destination

INTERNATIONAL: BUSINESS CLASS

FROM MANILA TO ASIA
SELLING PERIOD: June 9 - 13, 2014
TRAVEL PERIOD: January 15 - March 20, 2015
DESTINATIONS ROUND TRIP BASE FARE FUEL
SURCHARGE GOV'T TAXES
AND FEES ROUND TRIP
ALL-IN
FARE
MANILA
- HONG KONG-
MANILA USD199 USD100 USD52.50 USD352
MANILA
- MACAU -
MANILA USD193 USD54.60 USD348
MANILA
- TAIPEI -
MANILA USD207 USD47.00 USD354
MANILA
- HO CHI MINH CITY-
MANILA USD193 USD150 USD57.00 USD400
MANILA
- SINGAPORE -
MANILA USD64.20 USD407
MANILA
- DENPASAR BALI-
MANILA USD207 USD190 USD37.00 USD434
MANILA
- JAKARTA -
MANILA USD193 USD420
MANILA
- BANGKOK -
MANILA USD200 USD150 USD58.50 USD409
MANILA
- XIAMEN -
MANILA USD158 USD110 USD51.40 USD319
MANILA
- SHANGHAI -
MANILA USD210 USD170 USD431
MANILA
- BEIJING-
MANILA USD238 USD459
MANILA
- GUANGZHOU -
MANILA USD158 USD110 USD319
MANILA
- HANEDA -
MANILA USD392 USD180 USD63.20 USD635
MANILA
- NARITA -
MANILA USD357 USD62.60 USD600
CEBU
- NARITA -
CEBU
MANILA
- NAGOYA -
MANILA USD63.80 USD601
MANILA
- FUKUOKA -
MANILA USD46.50 USD584
MANILA
- OSAKA -
MANILA USD66.80 USD604
MANILA
- SEOUL -
MANILA USD427 USD160 USD64.30 USD651
MANILA
- BUSAN -
MANILA USD59.50 USD647

FROM MANILA TO AUSTRALIA
SELLING PERIOD: June 9 - 13, 2014
TRAVEL PERIOD: January 15 - March 20, 2015
DESTINATIONS ROUND TRIP BASE FARE FUEL
SURCHARGE GOV'T TAXES
AND FEES ROUND TRIP
ALL-IN
FARE
MANILA
- SYDNEY -
MANILA USD630 USD330 USD138.00 USD1,098
MANILA
- MELBOURNE -
MANILA USD124.90 USD1,085
MANILA
- BRISBANE -
MANILA USD139.00 USD1,099
MANILA
- DARWIN -
MANILA USD615 USD160 USD130.80 USD606

FROM MANILA TO MIDDLE EAST
SELLING PERIOD: June 9 - 13, 2014
TRAVEL PERIOD: January 15 - March 20, 2015
DESTINATIONS ROUND TRIP BASE FARE FUEL
SURCHARGE GOV'T TAXES
AND FEES ROUND TRIP
ALL-IN
FARE
MANILA
- ABU DHABI -
MANILA USD735 USD312 USD60.20 USD1,107

FROM MANILA TO UNITED KINGDOM
SELLING PERIOD: June 9 - 13, 2014
TRAVEL PERIOD: January 15 - March 20, 2015
DESTINATIONS ROUND TRIP BASE FARE FUEL
SURCHARGE GOV'T TAXES
AND FEES ROUND TRIP
ALL-IN
FARE
MANILA
- LONDON -
MANILA USD691 USD328 USD275.70 USD1,294

Last edited by tcook052; Jun 17, 2014 at 12:43 pm

Jun 12, 2014, 8:25 am

#1777

nzthunderboy

Join Date: Sep 2011

Location: Brisbane

Programs: Velocity Platinum, Qantas Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Etihad Gold

Posts: 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by TravelingRabbit

Found it on kayak.

Checked mid August and Thai is $1882. Cathay $2274. Qatar $1964. I just booked first via points instead

what dates? i am not getting any fare close to that. thanks

Jun 12, 2014, 5:19 pm

#1778

carsnoceans

Join Date: Nov 2011

Location: ORD

Programs: status free since 2017

Posts: 2,188

Quote:

Originally Posted by nzthunderboy

what dates? i am not getting any fare close to that. thanks

Same. Got nothing.

Jun 13, 2014, 12:53 pm

#1779

Renes Points

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Join Date: Aug 2009

Location: Look up - On a ✈ DELTA ✈ jet NOW!

Programs: Blogger & Delta Diamond Medallion Million Miler

Posts: 4,174

Dl: Mdw<->phx $483 & 5328mqms at 9.1cpm weekend 1 day run

DL: MDW<->PHX $483 & 5328MQMS AT 9.1CPM WEEKEND 1 DAY RUN

Sample date 16AUG out and back same day

Many open weekdays and Saturdays till 10DEC

Works both ways.

Also MKE-PHX same date 26AUG 8CPM at $543 via ATL

Jun 17, 2014, 12:23 pm

#1780

caimaster

Join Date: Apr 2012

Programs: AA EXP, UA Gold, SPG Plat

Posts: 386

CX from USA gateways to most major cities in SE Asia around $3800. These are I fares earns 125% miles on AA or you can sign up for MPC and get double miles. A trip from NY to Bali would earn you over 75000 Asia miles. That's ~5 cpm if you transfer to Asia mile.

Link to double miles

Jun 17, 2014, 12:55 pm

#1781

BradnerBoy

Join Date: Oct 2006

Location: YLW

Posts: 285

For members residing in the US only

Ironic that it includes departures from Vancouver.

Quote:

Originally Posted by caimaster

Jun 17, 2014, 12:58 pm

#1782

caimaster

Join Date: Apr 2012

Programs: AA EXP, UA Gold, SPG Plat

Posts: 386

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradnerBoy

For members residing in the US only

Ironic that it includes departures from Vancouver.

Maybe they are trying to lure flyers from Sea or the northwest.

Jun 17, 2014, 2:28 pm

#1783

CaptRobPhD

Join Date: Feb 2013

Location: Chicago

Programs: AA EXP, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium Elite, National Executive

Posts: 596

Holy cow CX -- those BKK I fares about 50-60% of usual. Dang

Looks like 1 Jul - 31 Aug.

Thought about temping fate to see if a shorter HKG run could run closer to PEY fare (from ORD)...ah, no. Still $7k.

Last edited by CaptRobPhD; Jun 17, 2014 at 2:34 pm

Jun 17, 2014, 2:40 pm

#1784

worldtraveller73

Join Date: Oct 2010

Location: YVR - Vancouver, with most winter weekends in Whistler.

Programs: Aeroplan 35K, Alaska MVP, Marriott Titanium / Lifetime Platinum, Hertz President's Circle

Posts: 4,609

Quote:

Originally Posted by caimaster

Maybe they are trying to lure flyers from Sea or the northwest.

They must be since the promotion requires you to have a US Address for the Asia Miles FFP account in order to qualify.

Jun 18, 2014, 5:43 pm

#1785

TravelingRabbit

Join Date: Dec 2013

Posts: 234

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsnoceans

Same. Got nothing.

Went to Kayak and searched on 8/10 to 8/12 for DEL-LAX in business.

Fri, Aug 8
$1832
Thai Airways
Select

Thai Airways
DEL 11:30p → LAX 5:55p 30h 55m 2 stops (BKK, ICN)
Business
Details
Fares

Depart
Fri, Aug 8 DEL to LAX – 2 stops 30h 55m
This flight leaves on Friday (Aug 8) and arrives on Saturday (Aug 9).
Thai Airways – Flight 316 4h 25m
Take-off Fri 11:30p DEL New Delhi, India
Landing Sat 5:25a BKK Bangkok, Thailand
Biz | Fare code: JOWIIP | Boeing 747-400 (Wide-body Jet) | 4h 25m | 9+ seats remain
Change planes
BKK Bangkok, Thailand
8h 15m
Thai Airways – Flight 692 5h 25m
Take-off Sat 1:40p BKK Bangkok, Thailand
Landing Sat 9:05p ICN Seoul, South Korea
Biz | Fare code: JOWIIP | Boeing 777 (Wide-body Jet) | 5h 25m | 4 seats remain
Same plane
ICN Seoul, South Korea
1h 15m
Thai Airways – Flight 692 11h 35m
Take-off Sat 10:20p ICN Seoul, South Korea
Landing Sat 5:55p LAX Los Angeles, CA
Biz | Boeing 777 (Wide-body Jet) | 11h 35m

DEL 9:20a → LAX 9:30p 48h 40m 2 stops (DOH, IAH)
Business
Details
Fares

Depart
Mon, Aug 11 DEL to LAX – 2 stops 48h 40m
This flight leaves on Monday (Aug 11) and arrives on Tuesday (Aug 12).
Qatar Airways – Flight 565 4h 10m
Take-off Mon 9:20a DEL New Delhi, India
Landing Mon 11:00a DOH Doha, Qatar
Biz | Boeing 787-8 (Wide-body Jet) | 4h 10m
Change planes
DOH Doha, Qatar
21h 35m
Qatar Airways – Flight 713 15h 45m
Take-off Tue 8:35a DOH Doha, Qatar
Landing Tue 4:20p IAH Houston, TX
Biz | Boeing 777-200LR (Wide-body Jet) | 15h 45m
Change planes
IAH Houston, TX
3h 50m
Qatar Airways – Flight 5305 3h 20m
Take-off Tue 8:10p IAH Houston, TX
Landing Tue 9:30p LAX Los Angeles, CA
Biz | Canadair Regional Jet 700 (Regional Jet) | 3h 20m

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