Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm
Last edit by: skunker
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html
List of known, active deals:
JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return
BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html
Good Deal Premium Fares 2014
Jun 3, 2014, 3:47 pm
#1741
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston
Programs: AA 1.85MM, UA GS
Posts: 43
Yikes, I think is gone, I booked a couple yesterday, one in jun for 6 days and this one in aug:
Carrier Flight # Departing Arriving Fare Code
American 12 LOS ANGELES
FRI 15AUG
11:05 AM NEW YORK JFK 8:00 PM I
Seat 8A Business EXP Lunch
American 953 NEW YORK JFK
FRI 15AUG
10:05 PM BUENOS AIRES EZE 9:40 AM I
Seat 11A Business EXP Dinner/Breakfast
American 954 BUENOS AIRES EZE
SUN 17AUG
8:30 PM NEW YORK JFK 6:25 AM I
Seat 11A Business Dinner/Breakfast
American 1 NEW YORK JFK
MON 18AUG
9:00 AM LOS ANGELES 12:05 PM I
Seat 8A Business EXP Breakfast
Passenger Ticket # Fare-USD Taxes and Carrier-
Imposed Fees Ticket Total
1759.00 137.43 1896.43
Jun 4, 2014, 2:50 am
#1742
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: San Francisco & Newark, CO plat
Posts: 243
That's too bad. Does anyone know where I can get the full fare rules? I see some text but it seems incomplete. For instance it says 300EUR change fee per change - that's quite a lot, for a business class fare. I'd like to understand my options.
Can I buy it and if need be get a full refund within 24 hours like I can in the USA?
Can I buy it and if need be get a full refund within 24 hours like I can in the USA?
Jun 4, 2014, 3:42 am
#1743
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 2
EY Business BKK-ZRH RT
EY Business BKK-ZRH RT
~ 1900 USD incl. tax. Class: W. Farebasis: WHOT1MTH. Minimum-stay: 3 days, maximum: 1 month.
~ 1900 USD incl. tax. Class: W. Farebasis: WHOT1MTH. Minimum-stay: 3 days, maximum: 1 month.
Last edited by tcook052; Jun 4, 2014 at 8:49 am Reason: add airline & destination into body of post
Jun 4, 2014, 3:53 am
#1744
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: BA Gold, QF WP
Posts: 12,551
That's too bad. Does anyone know where I can get the full fare rules? I see some text but it seems incomplete. For instance it says 300EUR change fee per change - that's quite a lot, for a business class fare. I'd like to understand my options.
Can I buy it and if need be get a full refund within 24 hours like I can in the USA?
Can I buy it and if need be get a full refund within 24 hours like I can in the USA?
€300 isn't bad for a cancellation fee. Discount ex-UK business fares are fully non-changeable and non-refundable.
Jun 4, 2014, 10:32 am
#1745
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: VIE, BUD, PRG
Programs: LH SEN, DL Plat
Posts: 332
Bud-nyc/hnl-bud 1610 eur
BUD-NYC/HNL-BUD 1610 EUR - not the best but still good enough.
Budapest (BUD) to New York (JFK) - Tue, Mar 31
British Airways p.l.c. Budapest (BUD) to London (LHR) - Tue, Mar 31
British Airways p.l.c. 865 Dep: 8:00AM Arr: 9:40AM 2h 40m Airbus A320 Business (J)
Layover in LHR 1h 5m
British Airways p.l.c. London (LHR) to New York (JFK) - Tue, Mar 31
British Airways p.l.c. 1516 Dep: 10:45AM Arr: 1:40PM 7h 55m Boeing 777 Business (I)
OPERATED BY AMERICAN AIRLINES INC.
Honolulu (HNL) to Budapest (BUD) - Fri, May 1
British Airways p.l.c. Honolulu (HNL) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Fri, May 1
British Airways p.l.c. 5230 Dep: 7:20AM Arr: 3:45PM 5h 25m Boeing 757 Business (I)
OPERATED BY AMERICAN AIRLINES INC. Layover in LAX 6h 0m
British Airways p.l.c. Los Angeles (LAX) to London (LHR) - Fri, May 1
British Airways p.l.c. 268 Dep: 9:45PM Arr: 4:00PM 10h 15m Airbus A380 Business (I)
Layover in LHR Sat, May 2 4h 30m
British Airways p.l.c. London (LHR) to Budapest (BUD) - Sat, May 2
British Airways p.l.c. 870 Dep: 8:30PM Arr: 11:55PM 2h 25m Airbus A320 Business (J)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) €1,608.38
Total cost for 1 passenger €1,608.38
Budapest (BUD) to New York (JFK) - Tue, Mar 31
British Airways p.l.c. Budapest (BUD) to London (LHR) - Tue, Mar 31
British Airways p.l.c. 865 Dep: 8:00AM Arr: 9:40AM 2h 40m Airbus A320 Business (J)
Layover in LHR 1h 5m
British Airways p.l.c. London (LHR) to New York (JFK) - Tue, Mar 31
British Airways p.l.c. 1516 Dep: 10:45AM Arr: 1:40PM 7h 55m Boeing 777 Business (I)
OPERATED BY AMERICAN AIRLINES INC.
Honolulu (HNL) to Budapest (BUD) - Fri, May 1
British Airways p.l.c. Honolulu (HNL) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Fri, May 1
British Airways p.l.c. 5230 Dep: 7:20AM Arr: 3:45PM 5h 25m Boeing 757 Business (I)
OPERATED BY AMERICAN AIRLINES INC. Layover in LAX 6h 0m
British Airways p.l.c. Los Angeles (LAX) to London (LHR) - Fri, May 1
British Airways p.l.c. 268 Dep: 9:45PM Arr: 4:00PM 10h 15m Airbus A380 Business (I)
Layover in LHR Sat, May 2 4h 30m
British Airways p.l.c. London (LHR) to Budapest (BUD) - Sat, May 2
British Airways p.l.c. 870 Dep: 8:30PM Arr: 11:55PM 2h 25m Airbus A320 Business (J)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) €1,608.38
Total cost for 1 passenger €1,608.38
Jun 4, 2014, 11:08 am
#1746
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: CDG
Programs: More shiny with hotels than airlines.
Posts: 184
Luxembourg (LUX) to New York (JFK) - mar., mars 31
British Airways p.l.c. Luxembourg (LUX) to London (LHR) - mar., mars 31
British Airways p.l.c. 417 Dep: 11:45AM Arr: 12:05PM 1h 20m Airbus A319 Business (J)
Layover in LHR 3h 10m
British Airways p.l.c. London (LHR) to New York (JFK) - mar., mars 31
British Airways p.l.c. 1506 Dep: 3:15PM Arr: 6:10PM 7h 55m Boeing 777 Business (I)
OPERATED BY AMERICAN AIRLINES INC.
New York (JFK) to Honolulu (HNL) - mer., avr. 1
American Airlines Inc. New York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX) - mer., avr. 1
American Airlines Inc. 19 Dep: 11:00AM Arr: 1:50PM 5h 50m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in LAX 2h 35m
American Airlines Inc. Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL) - mer., avr. 1
American Airlines Inc. 297 Dep: 4:25PM Arr: 7:25PM 6h 0m Boeing 757 First (A)
Honolulu (HNL) to Budapest (BUD) - ven., mai 1
British Airways p.l.c. Honolulu (HNL) to Los Angeles (LAX) - ven., mai 1
British Airways p.l.c. 5230 Dep: 7:20AM Arr: 3:45PM 5h 25m Boeing 757 Business (I)
OPERATED BY AMERICAN AIRLINES INC. Layover in LAX 2h 50m
British Airways p.l.c. Los Angeles (LAX) to London (LHR) - ven., mai 1
British Airways p.l.c. 1509 Dep: 6:35PM Arr: 1:15PM 10h 40m Boeing 777 Business (I)
OPERATED BY AMERICAN AIRLINES INC. Layover in LHR sam., mai 2 1h 20m
British Airways p.l.c. London (LHR) to Budapest (BUD) - sam., mai 2
British Airways p.l.c. 868 Dep: 2:35PM Arr: 6:00PM 2h 25m Airbus A320 Business (J)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) 1 749,15 €
Total cost for 1 passenger 1 749,15 €
You can even save a few more if you ticket with AY.
Jun 4, 2014, 12:08 pm
#1747
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: 1A
Programs: Most
Posts: 393
the stopovers were just for 24hrs
Last edited by jeautk01; Jun 4, 2014 at 2:11 pm Reason: error in post
Jun 4, 2014, 3:04 pm
#1748
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: KRK
Programs: HHonors Diamond, IHG Spire, OZ Diamond
Posts: 238
I think i found sth better with il28sale
bru-lhr-jfk-lax-dfw dfw-lax-jfk-hel-bud
prices for 1564EUR
and
bru-lhr-jfk-lax lax-jfk-hel-bud
prices 1323EUR
with some decent layovers
both for august
bru-lhr-jfk-lax-dfw dfw-lax-jfk-hel-bud
prices for 1564EUR
and
bru-lhr-jfk-lax lax-jfk-hel-bud
prices 1323EUR
with some decent layovers
both for august
Jun 4, 2014, 5:45 pm
#1749
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Great Britain
Programs: Air: QR Silver. BA Silver Emirates, Hotels: CC Gold, IHG Spire AMB, Hilton Diamond.
Posts: 1,487
Hi, which fare class are these booking into ? Thinking mileage earning rates.
Jun 4, 2014, 11:34 pm
#1751
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 11,468
Sweet! Is it also possible to return to Bru or nearby city, or does it have to be Bud?
Jun 5, 2014, 1:47 am
#1752
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: KRK
Programs: HHonors Diamond, IHG Spire, OZ Diamond
Posts: 238
or J I I I I I (the one without dfw leg)
I think it's combining AY and BA that lowers price a bit seems like it's partial auto fuel dump
If you want to return in that nice price you need to find some flight from HEL at the end, but it seems BUD does a trick
and BTW
[SU] KRK-[PEK,PVG] RT 1403EUR class Z or Z+I
[AY] WAW-PEK RT 1430EUR class I
Last edited by hellosweets; Jun 5, 2014 at 2:57 am
Jun 5, 2014, 4:52 am
#1753
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Melbourne, Aus
Programs: TG*G VA Plat
Posts: 272
Jun 5, 2014, 5:18 am
#1754
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 286
Rules for WHOT1MTH
Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 23JUL 14. ALL TRAVEL
MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT ON 23JUL 14.
Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 15JUN 14.
But I see only prices of $2040,- for the RT.
Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 23JUL 14. ALL TRAVEL
MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT ON 23JUL 14.
Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 15JUN 14.
But I see only prices of $2040,- for the RT.
Jun 6, 2014, 3:42 pm
#1755
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 118
MAA-LAX Business $1666
MAA-LAX Business $1666
Sample dates June 28, 29
Gulf Air, AA
Sample dates June 28, 29
Gulf Air, AA