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"Secure Flight" Info Required?
I just booked an AA reservation last night and am wondering how the Secure Flight program will affect my travels. I was asked for my DOB and middle name by AA when I made the reservation but I declined to provide the information. Will I be required to give this information when I check in? Also, will I have any troubles flying if my ID has my middle name but my boarding pass doesn't?
I don't want to give the TSA any more information than is required. Can I fly without giving them this information? My flight is in November by the way and it's domestic. Thanks! Edit: I just checked my AA profile and noticed there is a spot for a "Known Traveler Number." TSA wants to give each traveler a number to track us (or use our SSN). Great.... |
Originally Posted by ewick12
(Post 12415929)
I just booked an AA reservation last night and am wondering how the Secure Flight program will affect my travels. I was asked for my DOB and middle name by AA when I made the reservation but I declined to provide the information. Will I be required to give this information when I check in? Also, will I have any troubles flying if my ID has my middle name but my boarding pass doesn't?
I don't want to give the TSA any more information than is required. Can I fly without giving them this information? My flight is in November by the way and it's domestic. Thanks! Secure Flight is a new program. The TSA is phasing in the program gradually, first by inviting travelers to offer the info voluntarily. Presumably, the program will become mandatory at some point, and you will not be able to fly without submitting your DOB to be checked against various databases. It's not all bad. For those people who are continuously SSSS'ed because of a name that is similar to one on a watch list, Secure Flight will help to differentiate people. Yes, I realize that there could be more than one John Smith born on the same day. So, it's not perfect. |
TSA Must Automate Privacy Checks, IG Says by Mickey McCarter, HSToday.com Monday, 21 September 2009 Without tools, TSA cannot know if air passenger info leaks The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has made great progress in establishing privacy programs to protect the personal information of air passengers and others but it could go further by setting up automatic privacy tools, suggested the inspector general (IG) of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) recently. Further training for TSA employees specific to their jobs also would increase privacy protections for travelers as well as air cargo shippers and others whose personally identifiable information is often provided to the agency, said the IG in a Sept. 18 report, titled "Transportation Security Administration Privacy Stewardship." |
Originally Posted by ESpen36
(Post 12416298)
It's not all bad. For those people who are continuously SSSS'ed because of a name that is similar to one on a watch list, Secure Flight will help to differentiate people. Yes, I realize that there could be more than one John Smith born on the same day. So, it's not perfect.
This is just another insane measure that does not improve security and hassles the honest traveler. |
Meanwhile, I "voluntarily" (the airline res system made me) used the long form of my name on two flights in the past 3 weeks, and have not gotten mileage credit for either of them (since my FF acct has the short form). One is an AS flight, with credit going to CO, and they will stop talking to each other very soon, so I may never see those miles (segment).
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Originally Posted by ewick12
(Post 12415929)
I just booked an AA reservation last night and am wondering how the Secure Flight program will affect my travels. I was asked for my DOB and middle name by AA when I made the reservation but I declined to provide the information. Will I be required to give this information when I check in? Also, will I have any troubles flying if my ID has my middle name but my boarding pass doesn't?
I don't want to give the TSA any more information than is required. Can I fly without giving them this information? My flight is in November by the way and it's domestic. Thanks! Edit: I just checked my AA profile and noticed there is a spot for a "Known Traveler Number." TSA wants to give each traveler a number to track us (or use our SSN). Great.... Longer answer is, you are not required to give the information but the covered aircraft operator is compelled by force of law to refuse you a boarding pass and/or authorization for entry into the sterile area and they are compelled by law to prevent you from boarding their aircraft. Title 49 § 1540.107(c) (c) An individual may not enter a sterile area or board an aircraft if the individual does not present a verifying identity document as defined in §1560.3 of this chapter, when requested for purposes of watch list matching under §1560.105(c), unless otherwise authorized by TSA on a case-by-case basis. (c) Request for identification ?(1) In general . If TSA has not informed the covered aircraft operator of the results of watch list matching for an individual by the time the individual attempts to check in, or informs the covered aircraft operator that an individual has been placed in inhibited status, the aircraft operator must request from the individual a verifying identity document pursuant to procedures in its security program., as provided in 49 CFR part 1544, subpart B or 49 CFR part 1546, subpart B. The individual must present a verifying identity document to the covered aircraft operator at the airport. (2) Transmission of Updated Secure Flight Passenger Data . Upon reviewing a passenger's verifying identity document, the covered aircraft operator must transmit the SFPD elements from the individual's verifying identity document to TSA. (3) Provision of Passenger Resolution Information . If requested by TSA, the covered aircraft operator must also provide to TSA the individual's Passenger Resolution Information as specified by TSA. (4) Exception for minors . If a covered aircraft operator is required to obtain information from an individual's verifying identity document under this paragraph (c), and the individual is younger than 18 years of age and does not have a verifying identity document, TSA may, on a case-by-case basis, authorize the minor or an adult accompanying the minor to state the individual's full name and date of birth in lieu of providing a verifying identity document. (d) Failure to obtain identification . If a passenger or non-traveling individual does not present a verifying identity document when requested by the covered aircraft operator, in order to comply with paragraph (c) of this section, the covered aircraft operator must not issue a boarding pass or give authorization to enter a sterile area to that individual and must not allow that individual to board an aircraft or enter a sterile area, unless otherwise authorized by TSA. |
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