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Fred On TSA
After hearing account after account from friends and acquaintances of rude and sometimes abusive behavior by federal officials in Immigrations, TSA, and others, I spoke by telephone to a fellow at TSA in Washington. He was agreeable and helpful, which is not a response one always gets in the capital. Anyway, I subseqquently wrote him a letter, reproduced below, which addresses matters that in the past have been of interest to readers.
http://fredoneverything.net/TSA.shtml |
Originally Posted by n4zhg
(Post 12244581)
After hearing account after account from friends and acquaintances of rude and sometimes abusive behavior by federal officials in Immigrations, TSA, and others, I spoke by telephone to a fellow at TSA in Washington. He was agreeable and helpful, which is not a response one always gets in the capital. Anyway, I subseqquently wrote him a letter, reproduced below, which addresses matters that in the past have been of interest to readers.
http://fredoneverything.net/TSA.shtml |
You write very well. Great stuff.
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
(Post 12245259)
You write very well. Great stuff.
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You lost a reader right here - and if I were the person reading this letter it would have gone straight to the shredder at this point:
It is widely assumed by sane and educated people that NSA monitors all email; whether this is true I am not sure, but it is believed. Tinfoil hats unite! |
You had sex with a Thai tranny prostitute??? :eek::eek::eek::eek:
Ciao, FH |
Originally Posted by jfulcher
(Post 12246669)
You lost a reader right here - and if I were the person reading this letter it would have gone straight to the shredder at this point:
Believe by WHO exaclty? This sane educated person and most that I know don't really believe this. I would suffice it to say that the majority of the people that believe these conspiracy theories are largely uneducated. Technically speaking this is largely an impractical task as well as it would require coordination with millions of ISPs and email providers worldwide. Now do I believe it does happen in some areas like free mail accounts? Sure. Regardless if it was widespread as to say all email is monitored we would have outrage from many different ISPs world wide. Tinfoil hats unite! |
Originally Posted by colpuck
(Post 12246753)
Umm ECHELON is massive government run data-mining program that can read e-mails.
While there is too much data out there to sift thru it all, I think enough evidence has been shown that NSA has done some "overcollection." I don't think the gov't would have been pushing so hard for telco immunity if something weren't going on. Collection is already permitted and legal if a warrant is issued. They wouldn't need immunity for that. |
Originally Posted by colpuck
(Post 12246753)
Umm ECHELON is massive government run data-mining program that can read e-mails.
So my original point stands - educated people don't wear tinfoil hats. |
Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 12246879)
Don't forget about the FBI's Carnivore.
While there is too much data out there to sift thru it all, I think enough evidence has been shown that NSA has done some "overcollection." I don't think the gov't would have been pushing so hard for telco immunity if something weren't going on. Collection is already permitted and legal if a warrant is issued. They wouldn't need immunity for that. |
Originally Posted by jfulcher
(Post 12247897)
Now Carnivore was truly meant to target specific users electronic communications. It was nothing more than a packet sniffer that filtered based on a target users IP address. Carnivore was never anything globally implemented, but it could be used just like a wiretap. You get a court order and the user's ISP plugged this device into their network (unless the ISP would cooperate without a court order) and off it went.
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Originally Posted by jfulcher
(Post 12246669)
You lost a reader right here - and if I were the person reading this letter it would have gone straight to the shredder at this point:
Believe by WHO exaclty? This sane educated person and most that I know don't really believe this. I would suffice it to say that the majority of the people that believe these conspiracy theories are largely uneducated. Technically speaking this is largely an impractical task as well as it would require coordination with millions of ISPs and email providers worldwide. Now do I believe it does happen in some areas like free mail accounts? Sure. Regardless if it was widespread as to say all email is monitored we would have outrage from many different ISPs world wide. Tinfoil hats unite! |
Originally Posted by doober
(Post 12248038)
Many "sane and educated" people in this country also believe that they will eventually become a victim of a terrorist attack;
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Originally Posted by doober
(Post 12248038)
Many "sane and educated" people in this country also believe that they will eventually become a victim of a terrorist attack; many of the same people also truly believe that any government health care plan will involve death panels. Are those two facts true? No, but many, many people believe them.
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Originally Posted by n4zhg
(Post 12248056)
In that they are correct. The terrorist is our own government.
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