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DRZ Aug 10, 2009 6:34 pm

Kind of sums up security -- checked baggage
 
I flew out of Pittsburgh today. If I let the ticket counter know I have tools and equipment in my checked luggage they will direct me to the TSA checkpoint where I can witness them inspect my baggage.

The inspector put my bag on his table and asked me if it was locked. I told him it had TSA approved locks on it.

Then he asked (wait for it!)... "Do you have the key?" He explained that the person with the keys was not present at the moment.

I replied: "How many non-TSA people have TSA keys?"
His answer: "Oh, quite a few."
I replied: "That doesn't say much for your security program."

He replied with a sheepish grin and a blush and didn't say anything more.

He called for someone to bring the keys.

Boggie Dog Aug 10, 2009 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by DRZ (Post 12205339)
I flew out of Pittsburgh today. If I let the ticket counter know I have tools and equipment in my checked luggage they will direct me to the TSA checkpoint where I can witness them inspect my baggage.

The inspector put my bag on his table and asked me if it was locked. I told him it had TSA approved locks on it.

Then he asked (wait for it!)... "Do you have the key?" He explained that the person with the keys was not present at the moment.

I replied: "How many non-TSA people have TSA keys?"
His answer: "Oh, quite a few."
I replied: "That doesn't say much for your security program."

He replied with a sheepish grin and a blush and didn't say anything more.

He called for someone to bring the keys.

You really don't think a TSA lock provides any security do you?

IslandBased Aug 10, 2009 7:00 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 12205409)
You really don't think a TSA lock provides any security do you?

Locks just keep out honest people. :rolleyes:

We Will Never Forget Aug 10, 2009 7:19 pm

Has there really been a problem of theft with TSA locks on the bags?

I don't recall reading anything on this board.

Boggie Dog Aug 10, 2009 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget (Post 12205540)
Has there really been a problem of theft with TSA locks on the bags?

I don't recall reading anything on this board.

The locks themselves provide little security. Easily opened without a key.

Take a look at youtube for examples.

We Will Never Forget Aug 10, 2009 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 12205599)
The locks themselves provide little security. Easily opened without a key.

Take a look at youtube for examples.

WOW....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UhDnr8DXP4

Spiff Aug 10, 2009 11:03 pm


Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget (Post 12205855)

The TSA. For joke or novelty purposes only - not to be confused with real security.

KNRG Aug 10, 2009 11:06 pm

I figure if you're going to steal my stuff, you at least need to put a little effort into it. No free lunches, though sometimes they're pretty cheap if you're creative.

UnoriginalGuy Aug 10, 2009 11:24 pm

I use zipties.

It stops the casual thief and you know if someone (TSA or otherwise) has tampered with your bag. The only downside is they're a devil to get off with anything that you can carry in your carry-on luggage.

PS - Cut the Ziptie's tail off and tie it tight or risk it getting court in the luggage belt!

alanR Aug 11, 2009 5:30 am

Given that virtually every other country can open suitcases without the need for magic locks and that TSA locks can be opened by a 6 year old, the only conclusion is that someone in the lock industry - ahem - "convinced" someone in government that they were a good idea

Boggie Dog Aug 11, 2009 8:14 am


Originally Posted by UnoriginalGuy (Post 12206647)
I use zipties.

It stops the casual thief and you know if someone (TSA or otherwise) has tampered with your bag. The only downside is they're a devil to get off with anything that you can carry in your carry-on luggage.

PS - Cut the Ziptie's tail off and tie it tight or risk it getting court in the luggage belt!

You could use your pointy 4 inch bladed scissors!

whirledtraveler Aug 11, 2009 8:19 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 12205409)
You really don't think a TSA lock provides any security do you?

Exactly. I knew from the moment I heard the phrase "TSA lock" years ago, that it would be pointless to have them, think about them, or discuss them. It's a concept which drips with ignorance and naivete.

goalie Aug 11, 2009 9:16 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 12205409)
You really don't think a TSA lock provides any security do you?

they don't? ;)

Boggie Dog Aug 11, 2009 9:38 am


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 12208303)
they don't? ;)

Just about as much security as TSA provides to the airline industry.:o

MikeMpls Aug 11, 2009 9:44 am


Originally Posted by UnoriginalGuy (Post 12206647)
The only downside is they're a devil to get off with anything that you can carry in your carry-on luggage.

Nail clippers work just fine.

I like to use pairs of zip ties in different colors -- hard to fake a replacement if anyone's been in the suitcase.

Best defense, of course, is not to check luggage.


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