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Bart Jul 3, 2009 5:49 pm

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Tom M. Jul 3, 2009 5:58 pm


Originally Posted by Bart (Post 12010488)
These were always brutally honest and grueling ordeals. And I think TSA needs to adapt the same process. While there are those who say it does, I've found in the non-military world that people are basically reluctant about saying it like it is. TSA included.

And yet anyone who dares being brutally honest about TSA failings on this message board you call whiners....

LOL!:rolleyes:

goalie Jul 3, 2009 6:13 pm


Originally Posted by n4zhg (Post 12009020)
Or just pick him for the retaliatory secondary. :td:

shame on you-don't you know there is no retaliatory screening? it's called "continuous" ;)


Originally Posted by Bart (Post 12010025)
I am certain that TSOs make it a point to refer you to secondary screening because they don't like you.

You just said so.

It's all about you. Always has been. Always will be. You and a million others.

This is covered during shift briefings. In fact, TSOs have a quota they have to fill. I'm not talking about just random screenings. I'm talking about an RSSQ: retaliatory secondary screening quota.

You're right!

as to being "referred" to secondary because "i'm not liked" ;)...

first week of june at sfo, the wtmd gate-keeper upon seeing my shoes were still on simply said to me in a loud and strong voice, "shoes".

i followed with "i'm wearing orthopedic shoes"

she responded with "shoes off"

i said again, "i'm wearing orthopedic shoes"

she followed with "male assist continuous"

i walk thru with no alarm (never do) and as i was waiting for my bags to picked up by the tso who was going to "do my shoes and hands", i saw the wtmd gate-keeper talking to another tso and pointing at me and rolling her eyes.

as my shoes were being done, 4, yes 4, tso's came over and were about to do their thing on my bag-that was until i yelled "stop! do not search my bag until i can be present to see exactly what you are doing" (and yes i yelled).

that got a few good looks from the tso's and when "my shoes were done" ;), i stood at the table and asked for a supervisor prior to their searching my bag.

i was questioned why i asked and simply told them that i believed that my screening was retaliatory from the wtmd gate-keeper.

well, i gotta tell you, one of the tso's hot-footed for a supervisor faster than you can believe.

the supervisor arrived and i told her what happened. she then told me that i was abusive and that i alarmed the wtmd. neither of which were true and i told her i would be more than happy to wait while she went and played the surveillance tape.

she asked who the wtmd gate-keeper was and i pointed her out where the supervisor muttered and "oh" and i was sent on my way without any "continuous screening"

so with that, yes, pax can be pita's and "looking for it" but in my case so can tso's

HawaiiTrvlr Jul 3, 2009 6:26 pm

Bart...I know you probably take a lot of flack in this forum because of your job. I just realized that you work for the TSA. I applaud what you do...I really do. I know that there are some good employees with TSA. Just some of your brethern are giving the TSA a bad reputation. In my situation, the outcome I would have liked to have seen is this: The agent screens my bag, does a secondary screening on the key chain, discover it no threat to aviation or anyone, and let me proceed. I really don't mind if they have to do a 2nd screening if it is useful. In my recent case, the agent wanted to argue that there was no way I could have ever gone through any TSA screening at all with that in my bag. I told him I have had it for 5 years and yes, I have been through plenty of screenings, including this very same screening point just 2 weeks prior. His reply: I don't believe you. My reply: Thats because you all are a bunch of idiots. That is when he called the LEO over and I was led away. In hindsight, probably a supervisor could have been called over and if the agent hadn't called over the LEO I might have gone that route. I might still use the TSA website to submit a comment/ complaint.

Scubatooth Jul 3, 2009 6:30 pm

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Bart Jul 4, 2009 5:24 am

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