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PV Alert: Can I Take Photos at the Checkpoint and Airport?
Yet another attempt at letting a post marinate overnight...:rolleyes:
http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2009/03/can-...and.html#links |
They haven't posted any new replies on any of the other posts since Monday, March 30. They must have been preparing this carefully-worded non-post.
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Originally Posted by PV
However… while the TSA does not prohibit photographs at screening locations, local laws, state statutes, or local ordinances might. Your best bet is to call ahead and see what that specific airport’s policy is.
FWIW, I've taken a few pictures near checkpoints and I've never had a problem. Now that I know what PV's stand is, I think I'll snap a few close up photos to add to a stock photo collection, if nothing else. |
I was told that it is fine unless you are not disrupting the screening procedure. I guess the supervisors determine whether or not you are being disruptive.
Why would anyone want to take pics at that terrible place anyway? If anything I'd want to forget most checkpoints. |
Originally Posted by Crazyace718
(Post 11507608)
Why would anyone want to take pics at that terrible place anyway? If anything I'd want to forget most checkpoints.
It's about documenting the behavior & abuses that many of us see on a daily basis. As the old saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words, right? |
Originally Posted by Crazyace718
(Post 11507608)
Why would anyone want to take pics at that terrible place anyway?
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I took TSA Bob's advice and asked about photo policies at 50 U.S. airports
I took Bob's advice and used TSA's "Got Feedback?" form to ask about photography policies at each of 50 major U.S. airports.
I submitted the following: On March 31, 2009, Bob at the TSA blog wrote that TSA does not prohibit any photography of publicly-accessible parts of airports [1]. He also wrote, "while the TSA does not prohibit photographs at screening locations, local laws, state statutes, or local ordinances might. Your best bet is to call ahead and see what that specific airport’s policy is. I suggest you use the Got Feedback program to directly contact the Customer Support Manager at the airport you’re going to be traveling through. They will have an answer for you and if they don’t, they can connect you with somebody who does." Do any such local laws, state statutes, or local ordinances apply to people who wish to photograph publicly-accessible areas of your airport? If so, which ones? References: [1]: <http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2009/03/can-i-take-photos-at-checkpoint-and.html> I'll follow up here with results. EDIT: following are links to a post in this thread for each of the airports for which I have received contact: EDIT: added BWI and CLT
see also: 2009-04-07 - count of nonresponsive airports, causes for concern 2009-04-10 - update on survey of 50 airports' polices re: photography of publicly-accessible area 2009-06-24 - minor update on 50-airport survey of photography policies 2009-08-04 - cross-reference related TSA blog post 2010-12-21 - policies verified via telephone contact |
Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 11507668)
I took Bob's advice and used TSA's "Got Feedback?" form to ask about photography policies at each of 50 major U.S. airports.
I'll follow up here with results. |
initial response from PDX re: airport photography
Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 11507668)
I took Bob's advice and used TSA's "Got Feedback?" form to ask about photography policies at each of 50 major U.S. airports.
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:49:39 -0400 From: "Burke, Tina A" <Tina.Burke%AT%dhs.gov> Subject: RE: Got Feedback : Portland International (PDX) To: Phillip Mocek Cc: GotFeedback <Gotfeedback%AT%dhs.gov> Mr. Mocek, Can you tell me what it is you'd like to do/photograph and I'll see what I can find out. Thanks, Tina Tina A. Burke Stakeholder and Customer Support Manager for Oregon Portland International Airport (PDX) Transportation Security Administration #503.889.3055 (o) #503.201.4563 (c) www.tsa.gov I responded: Hi, Ms. Burke. Thank you for your prompt response. I didn't have anything in particular in mind. I'm just interested in policies regarding photographing public places, so I followed the suggestion of Bob at TSA to find out more via their "Got Feedback?" program. You can read Bob's blog post on the TSA blog at <http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2009/03/can-i-take-photos-at-checkpoint-and.html>. In an attempt to give you something more specific to work with, let's say that I want to video record and/or photograph everything that I can see as a passenger arriving at the airport, walking through the terminal, being searched at the TSA checkpoint, and waiting to board my flight at the gate. I won't enter any areas that I am not allowed to enter. I will only use small, hand-held equipment (possibly hanging it from my neck at times), without a tripod, without a flash, and I will not interfere with any airport or TSA staff as they do their jobs. |
Originally Posted by txrus
(Post 11507652)
Plenty of reasons. As I exited the AA side of Terminal B @ BOS a few years ago, I saw 2 teenaged girls being 'screened' by a middle-aged male screener who felt the need to run his hand down the zipper of one girl's jeans while she assumed 'the position'. I don't care if it was w/the back of his hand, he had absolutely no business going there. Or the screener @ LAX who, while hand-searching checked baggage, stopped to pick his nose (in the middle of T4 right in front of the passengers). Or his buddies, on another trip, who were taking belongings out of the checked bags, waving them around, & laughing.
It's about documenting the behavior & abuses that many of us see on a daily basis. As the old saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words, right? |
Originally Posted by Crazyace718
(Post 11508487)
It seems like there were plenty of witnesses during all the incidents. I'm sure you wouldn't need a picture if several other passengers co-signed. Why didn't you report these guys?
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Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 11507983)
I received the following response from Tina A. Burke, TSA's Stakeholder and Customer Support Manager for Oregon Portland International Airport (PDX):
Tina Tina A. Burke Stakeholder and Customer Support Manager for Oregon Portland International Airport (PDX) Transportation Security Administration #503.889.3055 (o) #503.201.4563 (c) www.tsa.gov |
Originally Posted by amejr999
(Post 11510935)
Can we make a compilation of this contact info? Might be helpful. (Or entertaining to use for prank calls :D )
Does this mean that this person founded TSA in Oregon? Or that they are ready to plunge the stake through the heart of the beast killing it for all of time. |
update on survey of 50 airports' polices re: photography of publicly-accessible areas
Originally Posted by amejr999
(Post 11510935)
Can we make a compilation of this contact info? Might be helpful.
(Or entertaining to use for prank calls :D ) I've received responses from 10 people representing 11 airports. I'll compile responses and post them this evening. Preview: most have expressed no knowledge of anything prohibiting non-commercial (not sure how that's defined) photographing or video recording of publicly-accessible areas of airports as long as doing so does not interfere with airport or TSA staff or slow the screening process for other passengers. Several have expressed the opinion that photographing or video recording at a TSA checkpoint, or more specifically, photographing or video recording TSA's equipment at the checkpoint, would likely result in "trouble" of some sort, possibly including the involvement of law enforcement personnel. One reported that our exchange had been forwarded "to HQ" and that she was informed that my questions will be answered in more detail. |
Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 11511879)
... as long as doing so does not interfere with airport or TSA staff ...
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