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TXtoOH Jan 13, 2009 11:24 pm

Expired DL
 
I live in OH, but I've been working in TX for a school co-op. My DL expired in October while I was down here in TX. I knew it was going to expire, so I started the process of having OH DMV renew my DL through the mail. I sent in all the paper work, but I haven't received it back in the mail yet, and my flight back home is this Friday. I don't know what's taking the OH DMV so long to mail me my DL, I'm assuming the holidays, but all I have to show for myself is an expired DL and the temporary DL the OH DMV gave me for driving in the meantime (nothing more than a slip of paper). I began to worry that my DL might not show up in time, so last week I had my room mate back home FedEx my birth certificate & SS card.

So the question is, will I be able to board in AUS with expired DL, temp DL, birth certificate and SS card? The rules seem very confusing, as I read somewhere else that an expired DL is ok as long as it's not more than 1 year expired... Oh, I'm flying in to Louisville, SDF, because flying into Cincinnati is so expensive. Thanks for the help.

Trollkiller Jan 14, 2009 12:38 am

I would love to say you won't have any problem seeing how a paper DL extension is a legal form of ID when married with the expired photo ID.

Get there early and if you are given any hassle about the DL escalate the issue as high as you need to go to be allowed into the sterile area.

oneofthosepeopleyouloveto hate Jan 14, 2009 1:01 am


an expired DL is ok as long as it's not more than 1 year expired...
Correcto mundo. Not a problem!

N830MH Jan 14, 2009 1:11 am


Originally Posted by TXtoOH (Post 11072004)
So the question is, will I be able to board in AUS with expired DL, temp DL, birth certificate and SS card? The rules seem very confusing, as I read somewhere else that an expired DL is ok as long as it's not more than 1 year expired... Oh, I'm flying in to Louisville, SDF, because flying into Cincinnati is so expensive. Thanks for the help.

I think you should have renewal your DL online immediately. You don't want to getting into trouble with TSA. I can't get your involved with TSA. It just simple where you can purchase new DL online instead of going to motor vehicle office. It will be very extremely crowded are waiting to get your new DL.

TXtoOH Jan 14, 2009 1:37 am

Thanks for the responses so far. The rules just seem different depending on what airport you're flying into or out of. It's kind of confusing. Oh, and I'm flying American Airlines (usually go through Delta) so I don't know if certain airlines are more stringent than others.

As for the person suggesting renewal online, I wasn't aware that was an option. I just called up the Ohio DMV and they said to go through the snail mail. I'd have done it online long ago if I'd known it! It's been almost three months since I requested the renewal!

Trollkiller Jan 14, 2009 3:01 am

The most you will get is an extra grope and grab. You are worrying yourself for pretty much nothing.

mre5765 Jan 14, 2009 5:46 am


my birth certificate & SS card
FWIW, I have traveled with expired CO DL + a CO paper temporary. In CO, the TSA wanted to see the temporary. At non-CO airports, the TSA never noticed the DL had expired (I think because the CO DMV helpfully punches a hole through the expiration ... no expiration date, no expiration).

Whatever happens do not offer to show your SS card as a form of ID; protect yourself from ID theft.

SDF_Traveler Jan 14, 2009 6:09 am


Originally Posted by TXtoOH (Post 11072004)
I live in OH, but I've been working in TX for a school co-op. My DL expired in October while I was down here in TX. I knew it was going to expire, so I started the process of having OH DMV renew my DL through the mail. I sent in all the paper work, but I haven't received it back in the mail yet, and my flight back home is this Friday. I don't know what's taking the OH DMV so long to mail me my DL, I'm assuming the holidays, but all I have to show for myself is an expired DL and the temporary DL the OH DMV gave me for driving in the meantime (nothing more than a slip of paper). I began to worry that my DL might not show up in time, so last week I had my room mate back home FedEx my birth certificate & SS card.

So the question is, will I be able to board in AUS with expired DL, temp DL, birth certificate and SS card? The rules seem very confusing, as I read somewhere else that an expired DL is ok as long as it's not more than 1 year expired... Oh, I'm flying in to Louisville, SDF, because flying into Cincinnati is so expensive. Thanks for the help.

I think you should be fine with your temporary DL (on paper) combined with the expired DL.

Worst case scenario they'll verify your identity through a system they have in place and you might get a full screening. Give yourself some extra time, but you shouldn't have any problems flying. I wouldn't sweat it.

Added: mre5765 has good advice re SS card -- Keep your SSN card and birth certificate in a safe place as you travel. I would not show your SSN card to anyone - including TSA - to protect your identity. Once you get home, make sure you put your SSN card in a safe place (i.e. don't forget to remove it from your wallet or where ever you place it).

Have a good flight!

mikeef Jan 14, 2009 10:39 am


Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler (Post 11073078)
Added: mre5765 has good advice re SS card -- Keep your SSN card and birth certificate in a safe place as you travel. I would not show your SSN card to anyone - including TSA - to protect your identity. Once you get home, make sure you put your SSN card in a safe place (i.e. don't forget to remove it from your wallet or where ever you place it).

Have a good flight!

For that reason, the TSA (and others requesting ID) doesn't even get to see my driver's license. Too much personal info on that. A passport works just fine.

Mike

goalie Jan 14, 2009 11:14 am


Originally Posted by oneofthosepeopleyouloveto hate (Post 11072246)

an expired DL is ok as long as it's not more than 1 year expired...
Correcto mundo. Not a problem!

what you say may be true but i'm still gonna call this a major ymmv situation as we all know about the "consistent inconsistencies".....

as previously mentioned, bring the supporting documents "just in case" but if it was me, i'd present the expired i/d by itself and without volunteering any information as to the d/l being expired and see if anyone questions it. if they do question it, then pull the "oops, my bad, i have all this" and proceed to pull out your supporting documents out of your pockets

SDF_Traveler Jan 14, 2009 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 11074763)
For that reason, the TSA (and others requesting ID) doesn't even get to see my driver's license. Too much personal info on that. A passport works just fine.

Mike

I often do the same. The less information the better. Ironically, awhile back when I had misplaced my drivers license, I did have a couple establishments refuse to honor my US passport as proof of age when purchasing beer. I remember a clerk at the 7-11 telling me "well, I don't see that ID in my book, I can't accept it" -- I then have friend with me buy the beer and she refuses the sale because we came in the store together and I don't have appropriate ID. Ah, what a bloody nightmare!

Thankfully Kentucky (where I currently have my drivers license) doesn't print your SS # on the DL anymore. When I first moved to Kentucky in 1991 or so, your SSN was your DL #. IIRC, it stayed like that for a few years and when the DMV came up with an optional DL # instead of an SSN, I went into the DMV to get a new license; I then had a store clerk try to say it was fake because it didn't have my SSN on it. Ah, gotta love Kentucky, where too many things are still backwards.

It seemed like KY was one of the last states to stop that practice.

Now, I wish I would have just kept my Arizona license from when I was living there. AZ license was good until I turned like 65. :D

Georgia Peach Jan 14, 2009 3:39 pm

I still don't see the point of refusing an expired ID. The person didn't expire, only the paper. Case in point: a 98 year old friend moved to assisted living a couple of months ago. At Christmas her wallet and checkbook were stolen from her apartment. She has an expired passport and an expired DL, but neither can be used to get her a state ID card. She no longer travels or drives. SS card and voter registration card, which could be used to obtain new ID were in the wallet. Why does it have to be so hard to get a replacement ID? :mad: Plus there's the effort of just taking her somewhere, getting into the building, and waiting (unless some kind person in line or an employee sees us and offers to move her to the head of the line).

NY-FLA Jan 14, 2009 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler (Post 11075390)
Ah, gotta love Kentucky, where too many things are still backwards.

It seemed like KY was one of the last states to stop that practice.

Yeah, and that KY jelly, is just so, well, tasteless. :p:D

SDF_Traveler Jan 14, 2009 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by Georgia Peach (Post 11076889)
I still don't see the point of refusing an expired ID. The person didn't expire, only the paper. Case in point: a 98 year old friend moved to assisted living a couple of months ago. At Christmas her wallet and checkbook were stolen from her apartment. She has an expired passport and an expired DL, but neither can be used to get her a state ID card. She no longer travels or drives. SS card and voter registration card, which could be used to obtain new ID were in the wallet. Why does it have to be so hard to get a replacement ID? :mad: Plus there's the effort of just taking her somewhere, getting into the building, and waiting (unless some kind person in line or an employee sees us and offers to move her to the head of the line).

You might want to make sure she contacts all three credit bureaus, or someone does this on her behalf since her SS card was in there, to put a fraud alert on her files (regardless of what her credit looks like). Sadly, older individuals are targets for identity theft because they have long, established, credit histories and may not immediately notice or find out that their identity has been stolen.

As far as getting replacement ID - at least a state ID card - I understand the frustrations, having a grandmother in assisted living - taking her out and about, getting into buildings, etc., is an effort. Just wait until REAL ID is put into effect... I dread that day.

When I moved back to Kentucky, I had to jump through hoops to obtain a Kentucky DL. I went in with my old DL and passport, but nope, not good enough, I must also present my original social security card. <argh> The original SS card states "Not to be used for Identification" -- but yet it is necessary in the State of Kentucky to change a DL to the state. My US passport and old DL has always been sufficient in other states .. go figure.

ok, (end rant).

SDF_Traveler Jan 14, 2009 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by NY-FLA (Post 11077084)
Yeah, and that KY jelly, is just so, well, tasteless. :p:D

Haven't you heard it's good on roll's and baked goods?

(I bet you're thinking of that hospital joke - or a variation of it - about the patient commenting to the doctor about the Kentucky Jelly :D )


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