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Peterpack Jul 19, 2008 5:26 am

There's lots of threads on this particular subforum where you have sympathy for the OP. This isn't one of them !

stockmanjr Jul 20, 2008 11:35 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 10053603)
Short of forcing passengers to submit to a blood, urine or other bodily fluids test or other medical-type or lab examination, how in the world do you suggest that Customs go on to determine someone is under the influence of the controlled substance from passengers' use of such a substance a week or two weeks ago but not since?

I was thinking more along the lines of presenting oneself at customs while appearing to be under the influence.. There is no way short of what you stated of seeing use from a few weeks ago..
Cheers
Howie

thegeneral Jul 21, 2008 1:08 am

"keep doing coke if that's your personal choice"

We're encouraging the use of narcotics on here? You might want to do some research on how serious drugs like cocaine can rip entire families apart. Doing anything to suggest to people that something like this is socially ok is completely irresponsible. I'm rather surprised that this is permitted on a website like this.

swag Jul 21, 2008 6:19 am


Originally Posted by thegeneral (Post 10071252)
"keep doing coke if that's your personal choice"

We're encouraging the use of narcotics on here? You might want to do some research on how serious drugs like cocaine can rip entire families apart. Doing anything to suggest to people that something like this is socially ok is completely irresponsible. I'm rather surprised that this is permitted on a website like this.

I'm not encouraging it, but not condemning it either.

I think that choosing to put a substance into your body is among the most personal of choices you can make, and it's none of the government's business - but that's a topic for OMNI, and I'll happily discuss it with you there.

In any case, the OP is a newbie first-time poster, and is unlikely to change his drug habits based on a lecture from a stranger on this board.

mre5765 Jul 21, 2008 8:39 am


Originally Posted by REDACTED
Hi everyone,

I am a Canadian and returned from a trip from NYC at the end of January. At secondary screening back home in Canada, while they were going through my bags I was asked if I have ever used drugs.

Canadians have a right to silence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section...ght_to_silence

If you admitted to using cocaine in Canada, you put yourself at risk.

Even if there was no right to silence, since the question: "have you ever used drugs" is pretty vague, I would have refused to answer it. It is because LEOs deliberately ask such vague questions, designed to put suspects in deeper trouble, that lawyers advise one to shut up.


Originally Posted by REDACTED
I've debated just saying no

Lying to a customs and/or immigration official is just going to dig your hole deeper. Just refuse to answer the question.

In fact, given that FT moderators have admitted that everything we post is logged, I've edited my post to remove reference to OP's FT handle. OP is taking a risk that FT won't be give up his identity or information (in response to a court order for example) that could lead to his identity.

Indeed, I suggest OP ask FT to delete this thread.

Orion Jul 21, 2008 7:31 pm

"Have you ever used drugs?" Does Viagra count? How about Lipitor? Practically everything counts.
Have you ever used illegal drugs?
When I was a kid my dad told me to never utter one word more than necessary to "those people". He was right. I've been lucky.

Boston_Bulldog Jul 22, 2008 3:07 am

Give the confessed one a body cavity search next trip
 
maybe op was a mule bring a load of that vancouver bc stuff to nyc
and why there was reisdue in his luggage that the drug-doggies sniffed . . .

or taking nyc street stuff home . . . wonder if his shoe-heels have false
bottoms and if the lame canadian customs idiots bothered to check?

or just like the movies he had the stuff strapped onto his chest...

at any rate, if he had said what he told the canadian cbp people to
their american counterparts, they probably would have given OP a
complete body-cavity search

i hope OP gets a complete body casvity search next time he crosses into the usa and another one on the way home to canada (if they allow him to enter the us again at all) :D

GUWonder Jul 22, 2008 4:42 am


Originally Posted by Boston_Bulldog (Post 10077113)

at any rate, if he had said what he told the canadian cbp people to
their american counterparts, they probably would have given OP a
complete body-cavity search

Your idea of "probably" is better characterized as wishful thinking on your part:


Originally Posted by Boston_Bulldog
i hope OP gets a complete body casvity search next time he crosses into the usa and another one on the way home to canada (if they allow him to enter the us again at all) :D

More like "probably not" = it wouldn't happen in at least 50+% of circumstances.


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