"If you've seen our SOP, we have a problem . . ."
Jul 15, 2008, 9:37 am
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Indeed. As if some critical national intelligence "secret" would be entrusted to the thousands standing around at the nation's airports.
The TSA's SSI isn't even a classification scheme. At best, it's a type of sensitive information, like the stuff marked "FOUO" by other agencies (DoD, etc.)
The TSA's SSI isn't even a classification scheme. At best, it's a type of sensitive information, like the stuff marked "FOUO" by other agencies (DoD, etc.)
Like "don't read it but stuff it where the sun don't shine"?
Jul 15, 2008, 9:41 am
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ETA - FOIA= Freedom of Information Act
Jul 15, 2008, 9:43 am
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Personally, I would agree that SSI is something the TSA should stuff where the sun don't shine, folded up with many corners sticking out first, of course...
Jul 15, 2008, 9:49 am
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"For Official Use Only": a dissemination marker applied to unclassified, but sensitive, information (SBU). That marker has different meanings in different organizations, but in general, it can serve to exempt so-marked material from the FOIA and also is supposed to keep you from doing things like sharing it with the media, dumping it in an open trash can, etc.
Personally, I would agree that SSI is something the TSA should stuff where the sun don't shine, folded up with many corners sticking out first, of course...
Personally, I would agree that SSI is something the TSA should stuff where the sun don't shine, folded up with many corners sticking out first, of course...
Jul 15, 2008, 9:52 am
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Indeed. As if some critical national intelligence "secret" would be entrusted to the thousands standing around at the nation's airports.
The TSA's SSI isn't even a classification scheme. At best, it's a type of sensitive information, like the stuff marked "FOUO" by other agencies (DoD, etc.)
The TSA's SSI isn't even a classification scheme. At best, it's a type of sensitive information, like the stuff marked "FOUO" by other agencies (DoD, etc.)
Jul 15, 2008, 9:54 am
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I don't know if it is true or not, but at one time I had heard it was the flight attendants union that wants to keep the ban on small knives and sharp objects. Has anyone else heard this, or know if it is true?
Jul 15, 2008, 10:14 am
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The reason the supervisor said you wouldn't be going anywhere that night was because he really wanted to know what the "real" SOP was.
He would have taken notes and mumbled something like "so that's what we're really supposed to be doing."
The reason the supervisor said you wouldn't be going anywhere that night was because he really wanted to know what the "real" SOP was.
He would have taken notes and mumbled something like "so that's what we're really supposed to be doing."
Jul 15, 2008, 10:21 am
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The link is from a couple years back, so maybe the FA union realized how ridiculous this was making them appear. You still see the occasional crew luggage with a sticker with scissors on a logo and a red circle with the prohibited band through the killer scissors.
Fair warning: TSS regulars might want to take a lude before reading this... all the villains are mentioned
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:25 am
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It had better be known by every TSO! But obviously, it's not (or at least not consistently practiced). If we have 46,000 current screeners, add to that 6 years of rapid turnover, and the contractors the are hired to do our SOP tests every year....there are a lot of people who know the SOP.
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:28 am
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Jul 15, 2008, 12:30 pm
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Jul 15, 2008, 12:46 pm
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Jul 15, 2008, 8:53 pm
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The supervisor said, "'SOP' stands for 'Standard Operating Procedure.' If you've seen the actual SOP we have a problem. Our SOP is a national intelligence secret. Have you ever seen it?" I didn't laugh . . . really . . . and said, "No, I've never seen the actual SOP. I only know what I read on the TSA website and in the media." He said, "Okay, that's good. Otherwise, you wouldn't be going anywhere tonight."
You should really consider posting this tale on the TSA blog. I'd love to see how they explain away these idiots.
Jul 15, 2008, 9:08 pm
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So it is for official use only, like Montana's 2008 to 2010 training and exercise plan?
http://dma.mt.gov/DES/Training/MT%20...2010_FINAL.pdf
Or maybe the OIG's TSA National Deployment Force Audit, also marked FOUO:
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=us
I like the GAO's review of transportation security for a little light reading:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08456t.pdf
http://dma.mt.gov/DES/Training/MT%20...2010_FINAL.pdf
Or maybe the OIG's TSA National Deployment Force Audit, also marked FOUO:
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=us
I like the GAO's review of transportation security for a little light reading:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08456t.pdf