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gj83 Jan 20, 2010 8:38 am

The new Kindle will read to you though

DevilDog438 Jan 20, 2010 8:40 am

Well, BWI C C/P pulls my GPS out of my laptop bag all the time, claiming it is a DVD player...gotta love those 1.5" diameter DVDs...:rolleyes:

TSO1973 Jan 20, 2010 8:42 am


Originally Posted by DevilDog438 (Post 13217907)
Well, BWI C C/P pulls my GPS out of my laptop bag all the time, claiming it is a DVD player...gotta love those 1.5" diameter DVDs...:rolleyes:

Is your GPS a Tom-Tom?

DevilDog438 Jan 20, 2010 8:45 am


Originally Posted by TSO1973 (Post 13217916)
Is your GPS a Tom-Tom?

Yup, smallest unit they make, with the suction cup stored in a separate pocket.

weaklyflyer Jan 20, 2010 9:43 am

I have had my kindle for about 4 months now and with almost weekly flying, I have never pulled it out of my bag and no screener has ever asked me to remove it or checked my bag because of it.

TRAVELSIG Jan 20, 2010 9:51 am


Originally Posted by TSO1973 (Post 13217916)
Is your GPS a Tom-Tom?

I fly with a Tom-Tom weekly and no one has ever taken it out of my carry-on bag

jennj99738 Jan 20, 2010 10:18 am


Originally Posted by TSO1973 (Post 13215370)
Could be that the view of the Kindle was clear enough. As a rule, they are treated just like laptops and should be removed from the bag. They are very easy to spot.

To a previous post, laptops left in the nylon sleeves are good to go as long as there is nothing else in the sleeve. When you have cables, flashdrives, whatever else in the sleeve, that's where you run into a problem.

Uh, no, not all the time. The problem is the TSOs who aren't trained properly and/or ignore their training and/or on a power trip. At EWR of all places at Thanksgiving, I had my laptop in a laptop sleeve by itself in a bin and was required by the TSO to take it out of the sleeve. He said I was wrong when I advised that the rules allow laptops in sleeves. And guess what? He WAS the TRAINER. This was a training lane.

I've had EWR TSOs demand that I take out a Nintendo DSI and a portable iPod player also even though the rules said that they don't need to come out of the bag. Consistent inconsistency should not apply to these simple rules. :rolleyes:

TRAVELSIG Jan 20, 2010 10:37 am


Originally Posted by jennj99738 (Post 13218549)
Uh, no, not all the time. The problem is the TSOs who aren't trained properly and/or ignore their training and/or on a power trip. At EWR of all places at Thanksgiving, I had my laptop in a laptop sleeve by itself in a bin and was required by the TSO to take it out of the sleeve. He said I was wrong when I advised that the rules allow laptops in sleeves. And guess what? He WAS the TRAINER. This was a training lane.

ORD last week required to take laptop out of sleeve.

FSBgirl Jan 20, 2010 10:53 am


Originally Posted by whirledtraveler (Post 9782330)
Just to be clear: whether the Kindle is a computer and whether the TSA thinks it is a computer are two completely different questions. Yes. It is a computer.

This is it exactly -- it all depends on the TSA agent at the time. I have the large Kindle ( Kindle DX) and had no problem with the first several trips, but in Montgomery Ala, was told it must be treated like a computer etc. Now, simply to avoid lengthening my time with these people, I take it out of its sleeve and put it in the same bin as everything else -- my coat, my liquids bag, etc. Since then -- no problems ,and what is important to me -- no re-runs of luggage to check (again!) what they already know it is, no hand searches, etc. BTW - the agent in Montgomery said it is the size of the electronic device that is the issue for them -- so perhaps the small Kindle wouldn't have raised the threshold. How true that explanation was, however, is debatable, I know.

jrpaguia Jan 20, 2010 11:20 am


Originally Posted by jennj99738 (Post 13218549)
Consistent inconsistency should not apply to these simple rules. :rolleyes:

+1

My 8 year old stepson who flies once a month has to take his Wii out of the backpack about 50% of the time.

whitearrow Jan 20, 2010 12:14 pm

Have had a Kindle since 4 months after the first one came out. I have never been asked to remove it, either here or abroad.

eeeee Jan 20, 2010 7:53 pm

I have flown with mine exactly once, returning home after receiving it for Christmas. I did not remove it initially. At JFK, the screener asked me if I had a computer, I said I had a Kindle, had to clarify electronic book, and he made me take it out and re-screen.

ralfp Jan 20, 2010 10:32 pm

The original computers were humans. Yes, they were really slow, but they were employed as computers. There's a reason m-w.com says the word dates from 1646.

A Kindle is a computer. Watches (even mechanical ones), phones, MP3 players, pacemakers, aircraft, AVOD, etc., all either are or contain computers.

RadioGirl Jan 20, 2010 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 13223131)
The original computers were humans. Yes, they were really slow, but they were employed as computers. There's a reason m-w.com says the word dates from 1646.

A Kindle is a computer. Watches (even mechanical ones), phones, MP3 players, pacemakers, aircraft, AVOD, etc., all either are or contain computers.

^ ;)

But TSA is paralyzed with confusion over whether 3 is, or is not, 3.4, by fluid ounces vs avoirdupois ounces, by whether ice is a "frozen liquid" or some other state of matter, and by 8-year-olds who "aren't on the list" but must be treated as if they were. Let's not confuse them any more, shall we? :D

VonS Jan 20, 2010 10:45 pm


Originally Posted by bnw2005 (Post 9781621)
I just purchased an Amazon Kindle. In many ways it is a computer. Does that mean that security will require it to be taken out of the carryon and its sleeve and put through the xray machine. I also carry a notebook computer so that means a bin for the shoes another for the computer and another for the Kindle. Does anybody have any experience taking a Kindle through security.

Kindle stays in my bag. I use one bin for all of my stuff: netbook, shoes, Kip Hawley is an idiot bag.


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