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Old Mar 27, 08, 2:38 pm
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Nipple rings cause security issue at airport (Merged Threads)

L.A. lawyer claims TSA agents forced woman to remove body jewelry. From MSNBC. Hmmm now what would they do if it were a Prince Albert?
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Old Mar 27, 08, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by bzbdewd View Post
L.A. lawyer claims TSA agents forced woman to remove body jewelry. From MSNBC. Hmmm now what would they do if it were a Prince Albert?
I saw this blogged, and knew FT would be talking about it. It's sort of ridiculous, although I wonder how large/what gauge rings we're talking about here.

Then again, problems with underwires and metal detectors go back several years - I don't know about any of our local FT women, but my wife wears a sports bra when she flies because for that reason.

One point of note from the article is:
Baird noted, however, that people wear wedding and other rings through security without tripping alarms.
Aren't those usually gold or some other non-ferrous metal. What about for body piercings? Aren't many of them some kind of steel alloy?
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Old Mar 27, 08, 3:17 pm
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Aren't [wedding rings] usually gold or some other non-ferrous metal. What about for body piercings? Aren't many of them some kind of steel alloy?
Yes and yes. A heavy gage body piercing of a reasonable length could trip the alarm. But I do not see the need for removing it. If they can HHMD and/or otherwise identify underwires for a bra there is no need to be so ridiculous about this. The alarm has to be "resolved" not removed.

Also, did the TSO just happen to have a pair of pliers lying around? That seems almost as strange.
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Saw it on snafu: http://snafu-ed.blogspot.com/2008/03...ple-rings.html

Not entirely clear but it seems the WTMD didn't alarm but a wand did.
Allred also indicated that while the first piercing was removed easily, the second was not, and a pair of pliers was required. At the same time, while she was behind cover, Hamlin could hear a growing number of male TSA agents snickering outside.
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I'm not sure what's worse in this story: the woman's nipple rings tripping the wand, or that she had to use a pair of pliers to get one out.
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"....Allred indicated during the press conference that TSA regulations indicate that standard procedure for piercings is a pat-down, with the OPTION of removal of the piercings instead of the pat-down. Of course, Hamlin wasn't informed of this option, and was instructed that she had to remove the piercings if she wanted to fly..."

Here we go again...idiots and morons given unlimited authority with no knowledge of the rules or regs...and now we taxpayers will end up paying for another TSA screw up.

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Thumbs up Gloria Allred versus the TSA!!!

Has Chertoff met his match?

(Throws popcorn in the microwave and gets out a bowl)

This is gonna be great!

http://www.tmz.com/2008/03/27/allred...-with-the-tsa/

(Video of a recreation of the "alleged" event in above link)
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Apparently, it was a wand. Those are designed to be that sensitive.
Also, I understand the rule that the alarm has to be "removed", not "resolved" as some other poster is suggesting. How would you know that there isn't something else tripping the buzzer, otherwise ?

That said, the episode is yet another factual piece of evidence that a majority of TSA staffers check in their brains before heading to work: if you really have to end up in the news for enforcing the piercing removal rule, pick a hot 21-year old and DO offer the pat-down option!
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L.A. lawyer claims TSA agents forced woman to remove body jewelry. From MSNBC. Hmmm now what would they do if it were a Prince Albert?
I have no piercings and am not a big fan of them but it's the person's right to have them if they choose. I think the fine TSA folks went a bit too far and shouldn't have demanded the objects be removed once they had identified the source. I hope some heads will roll over this.

TSA abuse should never go unreported when something like this happens. Although the government doesn't care about your rights, they have to keep up the charade in order to keep the sheep from realizing as much. TSA and DHS should be taught to have some healthy respect for travelers and their rights.

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Having met Gloria Allred all I can say is look out TSA. She is the most media savy barracuda I have ever had the privilege of meeting
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I really think this is a case of he said she said. I work at a Fl airport that sees more than its share of body piercings and have never heard of anything as stupid as this. Most people that are pierced have no qualms about just flashing you including the prince albert guys. They are very proud of their piercings. Sounds like Gloria and her client are trying to rake in some cash. I just wish everyone would contact their Senator and other reps to have the liquid ban overturned like the lighters. It was a knee jerk reaction and needs to be done away with.
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Having met Gloria Allred all I can say is look out TSA. She is the most media savy barracuda I have ever had the privilege of meeting
Sure she is--everyone, from the opposing counsel to the general public tune out as soon as they hear her name. Or snicker.
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I was going to say "worthless without pics" then I followed the link to the story.

Wish I hadn't.
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I wonder if this is going to show up on the TSA blog as another "artful concealment" confiscation?
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