What does this picture have to do with BDO's?
 

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If you mouseover the picture, it reads "Photo of behavior detection being used at an aiprort." However, I don't see any BDO's? What's the point of the picture?

And this is front page news for the TSA? He wasn't arrested for the multiple IDs. :confused: And of course, the catch-all: Disorderly conduct.

How does secondary screening work at MIA? If he bolted at the ID check, then I don't see how or why his bag was on the x-ray belt (except to legally show that he had started the screening process and could not revoke consent at that point). If it was after the WTMD he bolted, then that is a different story.

"Beydoun was questioned and then arrested on charges of resisting arrest without violence and disorderly conduct and found to be carrying multiple IDs in several names

"resisting arrest without violence"?? that's a new one on me. I guess that covers things like asking "are you arresting me? on what grounds?"

It's a commonly used Florida statute that involves resisting without physical altercation.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

Why am I getting the feeling the TSA website should have a banner proclaiming, "DHS Ministry of Propaganda"?

Of course it is. Because if the put out enough propaganda, then it justifies whining if there is ever the threat of a budget cut or congressional oversight (just look at the whining that Mike McConnell & the administration is doing over wiretaps).

Better to condition the sheep now, rather than later.

Blind squirrel? Since when is the TSA's job to find someone with multiple IDs?

I have been involved with plenty of BDO screening that have turn into arrests for one reason or another and the media hasn't covered it. If they wanted it to be propaganda, they would put out more. Besides, there is more to this case than just multiple IDs. Maybe once the investigation and court hearing are finished, they will do a follow-up article or the media will cover it.

Must be one of those terrorists who are constantly probing security as we are told on the TSA blog.

I'm waiting for the day when some zealot screener (SPOTnik or otherwise) blows a huge sting that the FBI or other real cops have been planning for months or years. There's no way that the FBI would entrust advanced information to the DHS.


When I am in the office, I read a bunch of electronic situational awareness morning reports from various government agencies most every morning. These are at a pretty high classification level. My advice: Don't flatter yourself.

A serious question....and you don't have to blow your precious SSI here to answer.

Does any of what you allude to have to do with aviation security? Seriously, does it? Did you your brave and heroic brethren find a pipe bomb, liquid explosives or something that could have brought down the plane he was going to ride on?

Actually, they have. They have given us a heads up, so that the person they were following would make it to the gate with intent to fly. They were following someone and they gave us a photo description so that we wouldn't pull the person aside and spook them.



I wasn't attempting to "flatter" myself. I was just trying to make a point that sometimes there is more to a given situation than what the TSA or the media puts out. So, did any of your "pretty high classification level" reports go into any detail about this event?

Does any of it have to do with aviation security?

Well, I'm not sure how to answer that. You seem to base your concern off of whether or not someone is an immediate threat. What about future intent? Dry - runs? What about the people who mule money/drugs to fund terrorism? Should we not be concern with any of these activities?

C'mon, I specifically asked whether that person was an immediate threat to the safety of the aircraft he was about to board.

I'll take your reply as your answer being "no."

I ask because I'm tired of the TSA making these shameless chest-beatings about things that do not carry a direct threat to the aircraft the person was about to board, all at a time when they can't master what is supposed to be its core competency.

We're told by your fearless leader about the dire need to secure aircraft through banning shampoo, bottles of water and challenging IDs. All of these extra things you do distract you from finding true threats to security.

The "well, he could be a criminal" doesn't hold water. ANYONE could be that, including you and your co-workers. Should you be arrested?

Mission creep, the slippery slope, the camel's nose under the tent. With TSA screeners looking for so many peripheral items, there is a very good likelihood that they will miss the obvious that are threats to airliners. This likelihood is only enhanced by TSA's inability to deploy technology that would detect items that are threats to airliners.

No "immediate threat".

He is a known criminal.

No, the FBI and such should be concerned with such. TSA is not the Be All Do All Catch Em All Umbrella Gestapo of the Homeland Security Department. Well, not yet.

Your job is to make sure the flight leaving in 20 minutes is safe for ME to be a fellow passenger with that other pax.

A heroin smuggler/diamond smuggler/cash mule etc. is NOT a threat to the next plane I am on. The mule wants to be left alone, and get where he is going with his loot. Emphasis GET WHERE HE IS GOING, safe and in one piece. A mule does NOT want to blow up the plane, that defeats his purpose of safely transporting the contraband to its intended destination.

You want to stop funding terrorism? Start here: Ban the import of oil from Saudi Arabia. US $ go to Saudis, they hire the Bin Laden Construction Co to build stuff, stockholder OBL gets his dividends, or a prince gives a cash contribution to OBL. Banning the import of oil from SA will have a billion times more impact on defunding the Waw on Tewwow than lifting a dime bag of weed from a college kid. Get on it. Let us have progress reports as they come in. We're waiting. . .

Judgment based on interagency morning reports?
 

Lets say based on personal experience, if circulated community morning reports are your source for “putting down his speculation” then I would have to say the “CYA” epidemic on the Potomac is still no were closed to being addressed! Nice try.

UPDATE: New Photo!

So what?

Okay, fine. So, what do I do if I'm screening someone who has multiple IDs (with contradictory info), large sum of money (30,000 - 1MIL), drugs (cocaine or heroin or meth), and no solid story or a contradictory story?

Should I just wave him on by and say "have a nice flight sir, Flaflyer will be seated next to you, feel free to discuss your plans of non-terror with him." ?

First, is what you say possible? A million dollars is 5 x 12 x 12 inches and 22 pounds. Our mule has three kilos of heroin, or 6.6 pounds. The money and powder will fit in a 9 x 14 x 22 rollaboard (8 pounds) for a total of 36.6 pounds, leaving room for 3.3 pounds of fake IDs and still be within Deltas 40 pound carry on limit. OK, it is possible.

And in spite of the Sky is Falling misinformation propaganda from TSA, most drug dealers are ultimate free market capitalists who do not believe in government regulation or paying income taxes. The "Drug Dealers in the US = Funding Terrorists" connection you are brainwashed with is Pure Bull. Sure, Afghan war lords grow poppies for income, but what are you going to do, send the US Army to invade Afghanistan to stop it? Oh, wait, they already did, and the poppy crop is bigger than ever. By the time you intercept that kilo in MSP, the real terrorists in OBL land already have been paid. Your “making the 6 O'clock news with the Big Score" does NOTHING to stop terrorism.

So I am not worried about sitting next to the mule as long as his 40 pound carry on fits under his seat or in the overhead. What would worry me flying out of MSP is if the pax next to me tapped me on the foot and introduced himself as a U. S. Senator from Idaho. :eek:

Transportation and Security Administration officials became suspicious of Faid Beydoun as he stood in a security line, waiting to board a Los Angeles-bound flight. When Beydoun's travel documents also raised concerns, agents asked him to step out of line for a secondary screening.

Beydoun, who was carrying multiple passports, then ran from security screeners, jumped 25 feet off the second floor concourse and broke his arm and ribs, The Miami Herald reported.

The man was charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest without violence, according to a statement. They did not identify him, but Miami-Dade County Corrections Department spokeswoman Janelle Hall said Beydoun was arrested for the same charges Monday, as well as loitering and prowling.:confused::confused:

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...#uslPageReturn

Future Crime ?!?!?
 

Ah gheez looks like the dhs watched minority report.

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No. The DHS/TSA-related morning reports are written along the lines of "quantity versus quality." You'd expect their stuff to be printed in the police blotter in a local rag rather than in daily publications read by senior decision-makers.

Your first paragraph describes how law enforcement is supposed to work. Airports have been used for decades as convenient chokepoints to either arrest a bad guy using an actual arrest warrant or to conduct well-organized and legal operations. Your agency's uncontrolled dragnet approach puts all of this in serious jeopardy.

This represents a very naive view of how commodity sales work in the free market. Such a ban would have a negligible effect on oil revenue to SA. It might have a small adverse effect on the price of gas in the US, but even that is likely to be minimized due to the cost of transport already limiting the amount of Saudi Oil making it to the US market.

"SPOT adds an element of unpredictability to the security screening process that is easy for passengers to navigate but difficult for terrorists to manipulate."

Just so you're not confused, it's important to re-read the TSA's rationale. :rolleyes:

Now, continue ripping 'em a new one... ;)