Brisket and gravy!
 

A woman approached security with a cooked, frozen brisket and gravy. The brisket was foil wrapped, the gravy frozen in a zip lock. Security made her unwrap the brisket but never gave the frozen gravy (well over 3 oz) a thought.

Maybe frozen liquids are ok!!!

Is there really such a thing as a frozen liquid? Isn't that a solid? :D

Don't let TSA know that. Next thing we will know TSA will be telling us solids are not allowed as they are nothing more than cold liquids, and in the unlikely event of warming they could turn into more than 3oz of liquid, and it isn't in your kippie bag

Don't count on frozen liquids being allowed. I had an ice-filled water bottle confiscated by TSA at MHT shortly after the war-on-water began.

Almost all solids are "frozen liquids", with the possible exception of substances that cannot exist as liquids at standard pressure.

Hey, what about computer LIQUID crystal displays? Don't they have to go into the 1qt. baggies? :eek: :D

I cannot think of any solid that couldn't exist as a liquid at standard pressure if enough heat is applied to it.

BTW has anyone told TSA that glass is a liquid

Dry ice
naphthalene
cadmium
...

Has anyone told them that air contains water? That the human body is mostly water? That the human body has discrete liquid storage containers that can store far more than 100mL? :rolleyes:

Actually these could be liquids at standard pressure, its just that temprature needs to be played with. Dry Ice is simply solid CO2. it just tends to sublime at standard pressure and temprature. I guess I should have said "enough heat applied to or removed from" the solid. Of course this is probably way too much chemistry for TSA.

Now I would love someone to point out the storage concept you mentioned. Does any one out there know if the supposed chemicals needed to make the liquid bombs could relatively safely be housed in say the human bladder. This technique has been used by people trying to pass the urine tests. If this is possible, I am not sure I want to know how TSA would screen for this.

They won't let me (or SOME TSA won't let me) carry on frozen butter--cause it's a gel, they tell me.

Dry ice (frozen CO2) goes from a solid directly to a gas.

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Surgical modification and insertion of liquid storage bags or solid explosives into pets is cheap, can be tested before use (harder to test this on terrorists, suicide or no), and avoids all but the best security (translation: all security). Removal is preceded by in-flight euthanasia, done done with pills or injection ("insulin" for the human). Or the animal could be killed prior to arriving at the airport. "Awww, isn't that a quiet obedient little pet." That would avoid unwanted attention to the pet's discomfort. The best method of euthanasia and surgery would have to be determined experimentally (I'm not a doc, vet, or terrorist). The stopped heart and careful cutting mean no mess or significant odor. It could even be done while seated. Put pet body back in transport container afterwards to minimize suspicion.

Easy as pie. With lots of practice (not TSA involved), what's to stop anyone from doing this? If you had a lot of guts you could do it next to a FAM.

There is usually a limit to the number pets per cabin though. I'm surprised the TSA doesn't have a "pets must demonstrate consciousness prior to flight" policy.

TSA and foreign equivalents: I've you gotten this far I'll consider working for you as a terrorism method dreamer-upper. No work of any kind relating to this has been done by this poster, nor will any be done before any possible employment begins and requests that such work commence, if it ever. Non-Governmental Organizations not working under contract for governments that I consider non-evil (if you have to ask...) need not apply. My posts to this form will continue independent of any future employment. Which, of course, means you're not interested. Oh well.

oops, cadmium melts just fine.

However I'm sure there are plenty of gases like CO2 than you can freeze, carry as a solid (with the right cloves) and never see the liquid of (the triple point is above standard pressure).

If you carry water pressurized to 220atm and above 650K (710F), it's not a liquid anymore, even though it's fluid. Such supercritical water exists at vents on the ocean floor (over 2km down).