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railroadtycoon Jan 22, 2008 8:13 pm

Man gets through DCA security with a gun.
 
http://tinyurl.com/37dtjc

So how could ID checks have prevented this?

sbm12 Jan 22, 2008 8:21 pm

So sad...the guy gets a summons for a misdemeanor for being honest. Had he put it in his bag and kept his mouth shut the screener would still be searching for dangerous shampoo bottles and this guy would not have to deal with the problems. I'm glad the screener is on the way out (I hope), but this guy shouldn't get hosed for this.

N830MH Jan 22, 2008 8:54 pm


Originally Posted by railroadtycoon (Post 9118358)
http://tinyurl.com/37dtjc

So how could ID checks have prevented this?

It's does not good for bring the guns into DCA today. It is against the law that mean weapon are not allowed to bring to security checkpoint. They will get TSA civil penalties against the man. He will go to jail for that or he will payable fined for bring the guns at security checkpoint.

Superguy Jan 22, 2008 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by railroadtycoon (Post 9118358)
http://tinyurl.com/37dtjc

So how could ID checks have prevented this?

ID wouldn't have, but he would have been caught sooner if he had a bottle of water in the bag.

Definiltey stupid, but if you make it thru security, it's best to shut up. get out and not do it again.

Global_Hi_Flyer Jan 23, 2008 6:52 am


Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 9118537)
ID wouldn't have, but he would have been caught sooner if he had a bottle of water in the bag.

Definiltey stupid, but if you make it thru security, it's best to shut up. get out and not do it again.

Exactly. The fact that being honest has earned him an arrest record speaks volumes to your statement. He should have shut his trap, exited the so-called secure area, and either put the gun in his car or taken it home (assuming he's local).


Passenger Rob Padgett said, “Their security is tight, it's tighter than it's ever been, so whatever the number of incidents is, it's not many, so, I trust it and I feel safe.”
Yessir, Mr. Padgett, I feel a LOT safer that my water is confiscated but guns make it through.

1995hoo Jan 23, 2008 7:55 am

I can't understand why the guy would speak up about it. On the other hand, I also really don't understand how someone could "accidentally" take a gun to the checkpoint.

whirledtraveler Jan 23, 2008 8:04 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 9118392)
So sad...the guy gets a summons for a misdemeanor for being honest.

There is a very rational reason for this. If people weren't arrested for passing through security with guns and then alerting the TSA about it, people would do it all the time and the ineffectiveness of the TSA would be in the news constantly.

cestmoi123 Jan 23, 2008 8:15 am

In fairness, you do have to charge him, although clearly with something less than if he hadn't come forward. If you steal a car, and then bring it back undamaged before the owner knows its gone, and tell the police, they're still going to arrest you.

donsig Jan 23, 2008 8:43 am


In fairness, you do have to charge him
Actually, in fairness the guy deserves a medal for showing the flying world that current airport screening is a joke...I'm thinkin' the KIP HAWLEY IS AN IDIOT -I SMUGGLED A GUN AWARD

LessO2 Jan 23, 2008 8:43 am

People, people, people....don't you all know that this is part of Kip Hawley's plan of "designed inconsistency?"

LessO2 Jan 23, 2008 8:46 am


Originally Posted by cestmoi123 (Post 9120488)
In fairness, you do have to charge him, although clearly with something less than if he hadn't come forward. If you steal a car, and then bring it back undamaged before the owner knows its gone, and tell the police, they're still going to arrest you.

By the letter of the law, yes.

Cases like this is why there's a thing called judicial discretion. I'm sure that will be exercised in the case at the airport.

exerda Jan 23, 2008 9:33 am


Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 9120653)
By the letter of the law, yes.

Cases like this is why there's a thing called judicial discretion. I'm sure that will be exercised in the case at the airport.

Well, I do hope you're right.

I suspect the Arlington County court system might be willing to exercise such discretion. However, I figure that even if they do, then he's still going to be facing a $$$ fine from the TSA, and he'll have to go to kangaroo court to try to beat that. These are the same bozos who gave a fine to a woman over her leather bookmark, mind you.

goalie Jan 23, 2008 9:52 am

This latest breach at Reagan National has air travelers disappointed but not discouraged. Passenger Rob Padgett said, “Their security is tight, it's tighter than it's ever been, so whatever the number of incidents is, it's not many, so, I trust it and I feel safe.

passenger rob padgett = kettle

The TSA released a statement to Fox 5 Tuesday afternoon which read in part, "TSA is aware of the security incident which occurred over the weekend. At this time the security officer who failed to identify the firearm is on administrative leave and a full investigation is underway. Appropriate actions will be taken once the investigation is complete."

the tso should be fired but 5 hockey pucks says nothing other than "remedial training" will be done

LessO2 Jan 23, 2008 9:58 am


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 9120969)
I suspect the Arlington County court system might be willing to exercise such discretion. However, I figure that even if they do, then he's still going to be facing a $$$ fine from the TSA, and he'll have to go to kangaroo court to try to beat that. These are the same bozos who gave a fine to a woman over her leather bookmark, mind you.

Oh, I have no doubt what you and goalie describe is exactly what's going to happen. My earlier comment is strictly based on the gun possession thing, period.

The TSA look like Keystone Kops (again). You can be damn sure they're going to make someone pay for that.

coachrowsey Jan 23, 2008 10:14 am

First off I always know where my guns are so don't think that could've happened. However if it had've I would've kept my mouth shut & just carried on to my destination then to figure out how to get it back home.
What a friggin waste looking for dangerous water bottles which they are all over then miss weapons.


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