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txrus Jan 7, 2008 8:46 am
Boston Globe: TSA says security rules are sinking in
 
http://www.boston.com/news/local/art...re_sinking_in/

With the government lifting a ban on cigarette lighters in carry-on bags in August, the number of items seized at Logan checkpoints last year fell by more than half, to 237,796 items from 503,012 a year earlier, according to administration spokeswoman Ann Davis.

Imagine the #of items 'seized' if the Wah on Water ended :rolleyes:

Spiff Jan 7, 2008 8:50 am
How nice for their arbitrary designation of contraband items to be decreasing.

Too bad real security instead of joke/novelty "security" will never sink into Comrade Idiot Kip Hawley's thick melon. :mad:

m60521 Jan 7, 2008 8:56 am
Originally Posted by txrus (Post 9021107)
With the government lifting a ban on cigarette lighters in carry-on bags in August, the number of items seized at Logan checkpoints last year fell by more than half, to 237,796 items from 503,012 a year earlier, according to administration spokeswoman Ann Davis.
And if they were to end the ban on all things that were allowed prior to the rediculous 9-1-1 rules, there would be 0 items seized, and we would be on a path to regaining our civil liberties once again!

It is a shame that there isn't a presidential candidate that has read and understands the Constitution.:mad:

Flaflyer Jan 7, 2008 9:31 am
Still Wondering
 
Originally Posted by txrus (Post 9021107)
With the government lifting a ban on cigarette lighters in carry-on bags in August, the number of items seized at Logan checkpoints last year fell by more than half, to 237,796 items from 503,012 a year earlier, according to administration spokeswoman Ann Davis.
TSA says lighters are dangerous. TSA, as part of Homeland Security Service, is never wrong. Then TSA allows up to 265,216 lighters to board planes at just this one airport last year. I do not recall a a single news report of an incident involving a lighter that boarded at Logan last year. Why does this cause me to not believe other things TSA sez? :confused: Like "Your 101 ml bottle of water is a Serious National Security Threat to that plane over there, but the 10,000 pounds of cargo in the hold that TSA did not screen is No Problem." Just wondering. . .

LessO2 Jan 7, 2008 9:39 am
Originally Posted by Flaflyer (Post 9021322)
TSA says lighters are dangerous. TSA, as part of Homeland Security Service, is never wrong. Then TSA allows up to 265,216 lighters to board planes at just this one airport last year. I do not recall a a single news report of an incident involving a lighter that boarded at Logan last year. Why does this cause me to not believe other things TSA sez? :confused: Like "Your 101 ml bottle of water is a Serious National Security Threat to that plane over there, but the 10,000 pounds of cargo in the hold that TSA did not screen is No Problem." Just wondering. . .

CONGRESS mandated the lighter thing. As much as I would like to blame the TSA, it was Congress that mandated that.

doober Jan 7, 2008 10:38 am
Besides the ban on weapons, knives of any kind with blades over 4 inches, and tools over 7 inches long, airport security rules meant to thwart terrorists or hijackers from mixing bombs on board also restrict liquids and gels in carry-on bags to nothing bigger than 3 ounces. Passengers' liquid and gel containers must fit in a one-quart clear plastic bag.
Who gave the Boston Globe that information?

doober Jan 7, 2008 10:48 am
duplicate

FWAAA Jan 7, 2008 11:23 am
Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 9021378)
CONGRESS mandated the lighter thing. As much as I would like to blame the TSA, it was Congress that mandated that.
Yep - a couple of idiot Senators drafted the no-butane lighter rule, IIRC.

Since the butane lighter prohibition was statutory, how did the TSA manage to re-allow them? Wonder if the statutory prohibition contained some rule-making discretion that permitted the TSA to relax the rule?

txrus Jan 7, 2008 11:26 am
http://www.boston.com/news/local/bre..._man_arre.html

Guess they didn't sink in as far as the TSA thinks...

txrus Jan 7, 2008 11:29 am
Originally Posted by doober (Post 9021708)
Who gave the Boston Globe that information?
Probably the same people who created all the posters @ the airports & then recorded all the announcements that, to this day, drone on & on about
'Remember 3-1-1'


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