The TSA can count your money too?
 

From the Airliners.net forum:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions....main/3726517/

:rolleyes:

Rights? our civil liberties get tromped again!

Had a very pleasant TSA "officer" in MCO completely insistent that for domestic travel there were limitations on how much cash can be carried. :rolleyes:

(We were discussing what the bulge in my pants was at the WTMD :cool:, and I just told her I carried huge wads of cash due to my exorbitant wealth. Wish I'd thought further and asked her what she thought the limit was, she may just have answered SSI)

So, yeah if they think they can enforce such a (non-existent) limit, I don't see how they could enforce it without counting the cash. They also think they can enforce immigration law and prohibitions on Fake ID's. Mission creep is more like mission trot with this mismanaged moronical mob of misfits.

I dont think there is a limit for I'ntl either. You just have to declare over $10k.

I believe you are 100% correct on both counts. :):)

Then there is that illegal immigrant that has been in the spotlite in the news (CNN) the past couple of weeks who went thru a checkpoint with just under $60,000. He had earned it working odd jobs from the past ~10 years.

TSA contacted US Customs/Border Protection and money was confiscated because illegal immigrant was going home with the cash and (1) did not have dec form and (2) did not know about dec form. An offer was put on the table that he be given $10,000 back and leave the country by Jan 08.

If this illegal immigrant just had the dec form, chances are he would have made it on the plane and gone home with his hard earned money.

SDF_Traveler

I would say that Immigrations/Customs has a right, as you must declare amounts over $10,000, although I was unaware of any inter-US requirement, and I would assume that there is none.

Sounds like a TSA agent needs a spanking for going beyond the scope of his duties.

Yabut. TSA is like a pot of water that's slowly brought to a boil, and we are the frogs. What started as screening for items that could be used as weapons on planes is turning into a full-blown dragnet. Call it mission creep, authoritarianism, "protecting the safety and security of all our citizens", whatever. The bottom line is that "The Powers That Be" realize that most citizens of the country will pass through airport security at some point during the year, and they also realize that it is efficient for TSA folks to be checking for more than just weapons (and that doing a full search under implied consent avoids sticky constitutional issues.... and that folks undergoing the searches are accustomed to being searched at airports). It is a dream come true for those elements of government & law enforcement that take an authoritarian view.

a presumption based on what?

That story is here.

Does it really matter? It's his cash - unless the state can PROVE he has it from illegal activity, it should be returned to him IMMEDIATELY.

There is NO legal limit on how much cash you can carry around the country - the 10K limit does NOT apply for intra-US travel, by plane, boat, train, bus, car, or foot.

The only limit that can be imposed on you is an arbitrary one by the state - if the state sees you have cash, they can (unfortunately) decide on the spot if they want to take it away from you or not. The forfeiture laws, which I consider among the most blatantly evil and un-Constitutional horrors to affect the People of this country, can cost you your cash, house, car or any other asset at the whim of the state or police.

As to the TSA - they do NOT have the right to count your cash, comment on it, or take it. They THINK they have the right to call the police and have them inspect your money and decide to confiscate it or not - and receive their 'reward'. The best thing to do - never, ever let the TSA know about or see your cash. Nothing good can come of it.

In today's society,
You gotta step on people's toes.
As you gain mo-no-po-lies,
Tell me do your headaches grow?

And now your paycheck's getting bigger
And the Taxman pays a call,
You just want to pull the trigger,
Blow your brains against the wall.

Hey Mr. Rich Man:
When you can't sleep,
Do you count your money
Instead of sheep?

Artist?

This is correct on all points

This guy may not have filled out the declaration form for the cash, but they asked what he had and he was honest. It's not as if he was trying to hide what he had from the authorities.

Sadly, even prior to the TSA, large amounts of cash could cause problems. To them Lots of Cash=Drugs. My grandmother was detained for about 90 minutes back in 1998 for carrying about 20 grand in large bills traveling LAS-DFW-SJU.