Not to mention the two or three people at the table with the bright blue lights peddling the product across from the check-in counters.

FWIW - If you sign up and cxl after you have been approved, YOU HAVE TO WAIT 90 DAYS to get your info purged out of their system before you can sign up again, so I was told. So they have all your info for 90 days but won't let you sign back up. what gives?

I asked the MCO CRC about elite lines and was informed that MCO didn't set them up as one of the other AC didn't want an elite line. They would not identiy the carrier

You are joking, right? You think they ever "purge" your info? I assume once you give it to them it stays in the system for a VERY long time.

Yep! We got a similar briefing on new OPSEC topics. Evidently there's no implicit trust for TSA/DHS. :D

I think that airline would be SW, which never has supported an elite anything. Not sure how even SW, though, could have enough weight to prevent US or UA from doing it at the opposite terminal, should they so desire.

I called MCO admin one time to find out why this otherwise spectacular airport doesn't have this most basic amenity to ease passage for FF's. (Suspect the answer is MCO is the birthplace of "Clear" and the "free" but identical bennies from FF Elite security lines in the same airport would show up Clear for the debacle it is.) Got as far as a woman from Virgin who headed up an "airline council" that represents airline positions to other stakeholders at the airport. She agreed to get a rep. from the major airline in the "opposite", non-SW terminal to call me to discuss why an elite FF line was needed, and how it could be provided. Never happened. :(

The MCO web-site lets you put in ???'s but the answers provided on this issue are sheer nonsense. (TSA controls lines, never any problem if you arrive multiple hours in advance, etc.)

There may be a perspective that the ratio of business travel at MCO is too small to warrant elite security lines. AFAIK TPA doesn't have elite security lines, either.

Jargon check: OPSEC?

Um, because WN is the largest carrier in the US (second largest in the world)??

OPerational SECurity.

I refuse to fly in/out of terminals that have CLEAR but no Elite line if I can.

One such example is JFK Terminal One, where normal lines are often ridiculously long.


Also, an interesting tidbit about Southwest. Their Rapid Rewards members can use elite lines where they exist. It's even mentioned on a graphical list of approved cards at PDX.

-A

In LIT ... yes. Usually 3 people standing around the sign up point downstairs and then 4 at the 2 machines at the TSA line.

But, you did not give your prints to the Feds. You gave your biometric information to a private corporation who then funneled them back to the Fed, as well as storing them in their own data files subject to their privacy rules. I have not looked at the Privacy Agreement for CLEAR, but would be willing to bet that it has language in it that allows them to:

1. Change the terms at will
2. Provide minimal notification of said changes
3. Provides for automatic acceptance of terms on a short turnaround basis
4. Provides that refusal to accept the terms results in immediate termination of supposed "benefits" and they still get to keep your information until their purge policies remove it

Caveat Emptor

Not joking at all, That is exactly what I asked them when they told me!!!! 90 days to purge something on their end, but they STILL have the info!

Um, and that allows them to dictate terms at all MCO terminals?

Terminal "A" and terminal "B" at MCO are separate and independent at and beyond security. My point was that I wouldn't think a terminal "A" airline can dictate what does or doesn't go on at Terminal "B" security lines when there's no chance of using elite lines at one terminal to enter the other.
(OT but that may be a great thread and sticky BTW; listing of airports with terminals segregated beyond security)

FYI on Atlanta
 

It looks like Atlanta will be getting CLEAR...

From the CLEAR website:

Enrollment is now being accepted in downtown Atlanta at the Hyatt Regency Atlanta on Peachtree Street.

Please note that Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport is in the process of selecting a company to roll-out its fast lanes. No matter which company is chosen, your Clear® card will work at Atlanta Airport as it does at every participating airport nationwide.

Once you enroll at this location, your enrollment will be processed immediately and upon approval by the Department of Homeland Security, we will mail you your personalized Clear card to use nationwide.

However, to assure that you are not disappointed by possibly not being able to use your card immediately at what may be your home airport, the membership term for applicants who enroll in Altanta will not begin until the express lanes are open at Atlanta International Airport. In other words, your one-year membership will not expire until one year from the launch of the fast lanes in Atlanta, even though you will be able to use your card upon receipt at all the other participating airports nationwide.