why does no one point out that TSA kills people?
Follow the logic:
1) TSA makes flying more costly in terms of time and annoyance. 2) Folks decide to drive rather than fly short-haul legs because of this annoyance and increased time element. 3) Driving is a lot more dangerous than flying. 4) More people die on the road than they would have if they had flown. Yet, I see very few people making this argument. Why? |
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 8689868)
Follow the logic:
1) TSA makes flying more costly in terms of time and annoyance. 2) Folks decide to drive rather than fly short-haul legs because of this annoyance and increased time element. 3) Driving is a lot more dangerous than flying. 4) More people die on the road than they would have if they had flown. Yet, I see very few people making this argument. Why? Someone could argue, for instance, that the time that passengers spend standing in line waiting for security decreases the chances of DVT. Or, that high employment for screeners decreases the number of people who are employed in relatively hazardous jobs like deep fry cook, ditch digger, or university medical experiment subject. |
Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
(Post 8689966)
Someone could argue, for instance, that the time that passengers spend standing in line waiting for security decreases the chances of DVT. Or, that high employment for screeners decreases the number of people who are employed in relatively hazardous jobs like deep fry cook, ditch digger, or university medical experiment subject.
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What I can't get is why are the planes so full if everyone is so scared off by the TSA? I know capacity was cut a lot, but still...
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The computer we're typing on right now was likely made in some other country, such as Malaysia. Thus, we kept money out of American hands, and one of those hands could have fed a child healthier food, and that poor eating will cause said child to have diabetes when it gets older, thus driving up health insurance costs for everyone in the future.
I'm certainly against the TSA and its useless, Kabuki Theater, heavy-handed tactics. But that's really stretching it a bit. |
Originally Posted by gj83
(Post 8689990)
I know capacity was cut a lot, but still...
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Originally Posted by LessO2
(Post 8690004)
The computer we're typing on right now was likely made in some other country, such as Malaysia. Thus, we kept money out of American hands, and one of those hands could have fed a child more healthier food, and that poor eating will cause said child to have diabetes when it gets older, thus driving up health insurance costs for everyone in the future.
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Originally Posted by LessO2
(Post 8690004)
The computer we're typing on right now was likely made in some other country, such as Malaysia. Thus, we kept money out of American hands, and one of those hands could have fed a child healthier food, and that poor eating will cause said child to have diabetes when it gets older, thus driving up health insurance costs for everyone in the future.
I don't know why people don't consider this sort of nationalistic argument as repugnant as racism. People are not more or less deserving of care or options because of their birth country -- any more than they would be because of their skin color. BTW, I don't claim you were making that argument. For all I know it was just an example. |
Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
(Post 8690061)
I don't know why people don't consider this sort of nationalistic argument as repugnant as racism. People are not more or less deserving of care or options because of their birth country -- any more than they would be because of their skin color.
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
(Post 8690061)
BTW, I don't claim you were making that argument. For all I know it was just an example.
I just used Dell's model of building computers in Malaysia as an example. |
Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 8690076)
States, and the nationalistic tendencies that they generate, are dangerous.
I wouldn't have thought of that. BTW: I think the argument that more people drive b/c of TSA borders on nonsense - but that's just my opinion. Best, Dave |
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 8690008)
People make this argument all the time. Haven't you see "BUY AMERICAN" signs? You've never been encouraged to buy a Ford? Why do you think that is?
As to the OP's comment, I find it stretching credulity a bit. If you take that line of thinking, increased airfares "kill" people by encouraging driving. |
Originally Posted by bseller
(Post 8690203)
States are dangerous?? Interesting extension of the viewpoint that we are all one people - to be governed by one world body.
I wouldn't have thought of that. BTW: I think the argument that more people drive b/c of TSA borders on nonsense - but that's just my opinion. Re driving, I'm sure there's been an uptick, but we'll never be able to determine the extent to which it's because of security at airports, or because of the decayed state of airline customer service. |
Originally Posted by Totoro
(Post 8690259)
Fords contain many imported components, and depending on the model may not be assembled in the US at all.
As to the OP's comment, I find it stretching credulity a bit. If you take that line of thinking, increased airfares "kill" people by encouraging driving. Policy choices do kill people or keep them alive. I suspect that people don't like to think in those terms because they don't want to feel responsible. |
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