Tourist Thrown Off Train by Goons Because He Took Photos and Doesn't Speak English
Nov 6, 2007, 4:32 pm
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This may not be directly related to the topic at hand, but I think it's fitting considering what took place.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...tan/index.html
Isn't this exactly what's happening here? George "Pot-Kettle-Black" Bush. 
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...tan/index.html
Bush said he recognized the threat Musharraf faces from extremists but said the emergency measures "undermine democracy."
Nov 6, 2007, 4:33 pm
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I think the Engineer is the pilot...the conductor is like the flight attendant. Either way, I'd still talk back if they're rudely trying to enforce a non-existent rule - or think they can confiscate my personal property. No one is taking my camera away without a warrant or arrest.
Nov 6, 2007, 4:40 pm
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This may not be directly related to the topic at hand, but I think it's fitting considering what took place.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...tan/index.html
Isn't this exactly what's happening here? George "Pot-Kettle-Black" Bush.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...tan/index.html
Isn't this exactly what's happening here? George "Pot-Kettle-Black" Bush.
Nov 6, 2007, 4:44 pm
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Hell, I'm a practcing "Episcopalian, active in the church, and would tend to disbelieve an item such as this published at an website connected with the national church more quickly than I would disbelieve a press release from the North Korean Society for the Propagation of Nuclear Research or the newsletter of the Somali Offshore Pirates' League.
Nov 6, 2007, 5:14 pm
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He/she can make the call - but they shouldn't expect me to comply unless they have a written document on hand which explains this 'rule'. Same goes for FA when flying.
Nov 6, 2007, 6:04 pm
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And of course since the tourist doesn't speak any English and likely has written the US off as a country to ever visit again, this won't come to enough attention for the "security" cheerleaders in this country to see how far off track we've gotten. Wasn't Amtrak usually advocated as an alternative to the TSA farce at the airports?
Nov 6, 2007, 7:25 pm
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Nov 6, 2007, 7:26 pm
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Nov 6, 2007, 8:32 pm
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unbelievable. the saddest thing about it is that other passengers who were close enough to witness what went on did nothing more than ask a few indignant questions. i'm sure it's different when you're in the moment and maybe not completely sure of what is going on, but i would hope that someone would speak up on my behalf were i in that situation.
Nov 6, 2007, 8:40 pm
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A top-down proposal for controlling the bullies before they become jackbooted thugs.
Write your congresscritters now, and explain that you feel the trust and openness long a hallmark of our beloved land is being eroded to nothing by petty bureaucrats who arrogate to themselves the authority to detain, interrogate, or confiscate property from, anyone they please under some impenetrable knee-jerk rubric of Home Defense. They're destroying the village in order to save it. Anyone who isn't reminded of the power grab carried out by Hitler in the wake of the Reichstag fire hasn't studied enough history.
Exhort them to enact legislation now, before it's too late, that makes it a federal crime to push people around by citing non-existent regulations contrived on the spot. Mandate that in cases such as the deplorable incident that started this thread (or almost any in the FT Security forum), the official issue a citation, in duplicate, specifying exactly which law or regulation has been broken. Make their promotion/retention contingent upon the outcome.
Exhort them to enact legislation now, before it's too late, that makes it a federal crime to push people around by citing non-existent regulations contrived on the spot. Mandate that in cases such as the deplorable incident that started this thread (or almost any in the FT Security forum), the official issue a citation, in duplicate, specifying exactly which law or regulation has been broken. Make their promotion/retention contingent upon the outcome.
Nov 6, 2007, 8:55 pm
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Hell, I'm a practcing "Episcopalian, active in the church, and would tend to disbelieve an item such as this published at an website connected with the national church more quickly than I would disbelieve a press release from the North Korean Society for the Propagation of Nuclear Research or the newsletter of the Somali Offshore Pirates' League.