FAMed Again, but maybe a solution
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i asked just that over here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=669073
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i asked just that over here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=669073
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And, as you noted, when there are already FAM(s) in FC as well.
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i asked just that over here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=669073
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From a revenue perspective we should also:
eliminate the requirement to carry defibrillators
eliminate mandatory crew rest minimums
eliminate mandated scheduled maintenance
eliminate the requirement for reinforced cockpit doors on new planes
etc, etc. ad nauseum
eliminate the requirement to carry defibrillators
eliminate mandatory crew rest minimums
eliminate mandated scheduled maintenance
eliminate the requirement for reinforced cockpit doors on new planes
etc, etc. ad nauseum
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Happy to carry FAM's, but not at the expense that some seats are costing, especially when downgrading all guests. Some F/C on certain carriers do not have "upgrade" or "FF" customers..there is nobody to move around, and no seats left to put them on during holiday periods. You can imagine the costs, not only in dollars, but in ill-will to the passengers, since nobody can tell them why or explain. It is a PR nightmare, as well as an actual and true dollar cost.
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Happy to carry FAM's, but not at the expense that some seats are costing, especially when downgrading all guests. Some F/C on certain carriers do not have "upgrade" or "FF" customers..there is nobody to move around, and no seats left to put them on during holiday periods. You can imagine the costs, not only in dollars, but in ill-will to the passengers, since nobody can tell them why or explain. It is a PR nightmare, as well as an actual and true dollar cost.
I remember one flight where the flight was delayed almost two hours due to "crew rest restrictions" where I thought the pax might burn down the gate area.
Of course, they'd need to have lighters first...
I've also seen equipment delays, maintenance delays, weight restriction delays, etc. where there was a lot of ill will. Why are those acceptable and FAMs not?
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Because we trust the FAA to get the cost/benefit analysis done better than DHS?
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While what you say is 100% correct, are not delays due to various FAA regulations also PR nightmares?
I remember one flight where the flight was delayed almost two hours due to "crew rest restrictions" where I thought the pax might burn down the gate area.
Of course, they'd need to have lighters first...
I've also seen equipment delays, maintenance delays, weight restriction delays, etc. where there was a lot of ill will. Why are those acceptable and FAMs not?
I remember one flight where the flight was delayed almost two hours due to "crew rest restrictions" where I thought the pax might burn down the gate area.
Of course, they'd need to have lighters first...
I've also seen equipment delays, maintenance delays, weight restriction delays, etc. where there was a lot of ill will. Why are those acceptable and FAMs not?
The airline has to 'make something' up....and although many FF's are obviously aware, those who purchase actual F/C are not used to this. Imagine it's Dec 23rd and suddenly you have no seat, and possibly even a totally different flight because everything is full.
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You can tell passengers that it is due to FAA regulations, and even show them. You can't tell them they are being removed because of a FAM.
The airline has to 'make something' up....and although many FF's are obviously aware, those who purchase actual F/C are not used to this. Imagine it's Dec 23rd and suddenly you have no seat, and possibly even a totally different flight because everything is full.
The airline has to 'make something' up....and although many FF's are obviously aware, those who purchase actual F/C are not used to this. Imagine it's Dec 23rd and suddenly you have no seat, and possibly even a totally different flight because everything is full.
Again, as I understand it. I'm no expert.