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cj001f Oct 13, 07 12:49 pm

Inside a suspicious package
 
Or, how to dump a terminal
http://www.sportsshooter.com/news/1833

UALOneKPlus Oct 13, 07 1:00 pm

disgusting.... that's all I can say. I hope someone was fired for this charade.

CessnaJock Oct 13, 07 1:11 pm

What's Wrong With This Picture?
 
The government has entrusted our safety to these cretins!

DanTravels Oct 13, 07 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by cj001f (Post 8554961)
Or, how to dump a terminal
http://www.sportsshooter.com/news/1833

LOL!

I don't have enough gear to mandate checking any of it (which is fortunate, since I know people who've had photo gear worth thousands of dollars stolen from their checked luggage), but boy, do I know the words "bag check!"

I hear it every time I fly, dragging along a laptop, DSLR, 4 lenses, inkjet, wireless router, voltage converter, and all the cables...

antirealist Oct 13, 07 1:41 pm

If you're checking a bag with contents like that, wouldn't it be sensible to wait until it's been screened before you leave the area, in case they want to search it?

FliesWay2Much Oct 13, 07 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by antirealist (Post 8555079)
If you're checking a bag with contents like that, wouldn't it be sensible to wait until it's been screened before you leave the area, in case they want to search it?

You should wait for, if nothing else, to make sure they don't steal from your bag.

ND Sol Oct 13, 07 3:09 pm


Originally Posted by antirealist (Post 8555079)
If you're checking a bag with contents like that, wouldn't it be sensible to wait until it's been screened before you leave the area, in case they want to search it?

Yes, you should. But many are not that travel savvy. In those airports where you can view the screening of your checked bags, I have found the TSO's telling pax that as long as their bag is not locked they can leave. I will stand there, but I never see anyone else do the same. In fact, while I am standing there, I have had TSO's tell me a number of times that I should go ahead and leave.

antirealist Oct 13, 07 3:37 pm


Originally Posted by ND Sol (Post 8555321)
Yes, you should. But many are not that travel savvy.

In the article she says she's a frequent flyer. If she took that bag as a carry on it would obviously be hand searched - what did she think would happen when she checked it?

Closing down the airport is clearly an over-reaction, but people who travel with this sort of equipment in their checked baggage need to take some responsibility for getting it through security. She could have prevented this incident if she'd used some common sense.

rebadc Oct 13, 07 4:45 pm


Originally Posted by UALOneKPlus (Post 8554985)
disgusting.... that's all I can say. I hope someone was fired for this charade.

Who would you like to fire.

TSA followed a SOP nothing more.

cj001f Oct 13, 07 5:01 pm


Originally Posted by antirealist (Post 8555389)
what did she think would happen when she checked it?

Since she likely checked it on the way out, as well as numerous other times, quite likely nothing :p

ND Sol Oct 13, 07 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by antirealist (Post 8555389)
In the article she says she's a frequent flyer. If she took that bag as a carry on it would obviously be hand searched - what did she think would happen when she checked it?

Closing down the airport is clearly an over-reaction, but people who travel with this sort of equipment in their checked baggage need to take some responsibility for getting it through security. She could have prevented this incident if she'd used some common sense.

How do you take responsibility at those airports where the baggage check is behind the door so you can't see it happen? She already hand carries a bag that contains her cameras; this is her auxiliary equipment, which is probably too much to take as a carry-on. Based on her story, she is not at fault in the least. This rests on the TSA.

Xyzzy Oct 13, 07 8:50 pm


Originally Posted by antirealist (Post 8555079)
If you're checking a bag with contents like that, wouldn't it be sensible to wait until it's been screened before you leave the area, in case they want to search it?

At EWR, before they moved most screening out of the public part of the terminal, when I tried to watch I was threatened with arrest for loitering. The TSA was always very nervous about people watching. Now they defile the bags in secret.

vassilipan Oct 13, 07 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by rebadc (Post 8555582)
Who would you like to fire.

TSA followed a SOP nothing more.

"I was only following orders." - Adolf Eichmann

Xyzzy Oct 14, 07 10:49 am


Originally Posted by rebadc (Post 8555582)
Who would you like to fire.

TSA followed a SOP nothing more.

SOP = Stupid Operating Procedure.

The chances of there being a bomb in a bag in an airport in Arkansas (or anywhere else, for that matter) is asymptotally close to zero. If the passenger who owns the bag can be found and can explain what the TSA sees then no terminal dump is necessary. This was a checked bag. There was no terminal dump necessary. The passenger had no access to the bag until its retrieval her destination.

Spiff Oct 14, 07 11:51 am


Originally Posted by rebadc (Post 8555582)
Who would you like to fire.

TSA followed a SOP nothing more.

All 43,000 TSA employees + their jackass bosses.


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