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vassilipan Aug 24, 2007 1:07 pm


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 8288200)
Was it a TSO? If so, he/she should not be enforcing an elite line.

TSO's are now the ID checkers/line police at a number of airports.

ralfp Aug 24, 2007 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by vassilipan (Post 8288772)
TSO's are now the ID checkers/line police at a number of airports.

Right. So there should be no elite lines where TSA people check IDs, as destroys the farce that the lines are under the airlines' control (which is what allowed these lines in the first place).

hsh101 Aug 26, 2007 10:09 pm


Originally Posted by hockeyguy (Post 8287856)
Well said. I think there were 3 likely outcomes from this scenario:
  1. Pax is allowed to use the elite line with no consequences. :td: Really bad precedent.
  2. Pax is refused entry, ends up making a big scene, and causes a disruption in the elite line. (It seems that the idea of the pax going quietly to the regular line was out of the question.)
  3. Pax is allowed to use the elite line, but is flagged for extra security and/or otherwise delayed.

Option #2 is probably what "should" have happened, but give the overall situation, I'm not particularly upset about #3. I don't like any to see security-related personnel going on a power trip, but in this case, I'd personally be ok with it, as it seemed to be more about doing the right thing for the people who belonged in the line (by setting a precedent) than about a personal power trip for the TSA agent.


Agreed. To me, this seemed like a way to give the Pax a little bit of time to think about her actions... sort of like having to write "I will not cut in the wrong line" a thousand times on the blackboard. If it were a power trip, I would have expected the ID checker to call in some muscle, to handle the situation before she even passed through the metal detector.

steve32 Aug 29, 2007 6:23 pm


Originally Posted by Wally Bird
Do something, anything, which is not "going with the program" without question and there's a good chance you're in for the extra luuuuv.

:eek:

Very well put. ^ :D

Steve

We Will Never Forget Aug 29, 2007 8:40 pm

Countless incidents (that have received media attention anyway) aboard aircraft started with people acting inappropriately at the security checkpoint. (ie. the Chechen women and the boy who said he had a bomb in his shoe)

What is past is prologue.

PatrickHenry1775 Aug 29, 2007 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget (Post 8317725)
Countless incidents (that have received media attention anyway) aboard aircraft started with people acting inappropriately at the security checkpoint. (ie. the Chechen women and the boy who said he had a bomb in his shoe)

What is past is prologue.

???

Bribing screeners is a bit more egregious than the inconsiderate, ineligible passenger using an elite line. In fact, apples and oranges to about the millionth power.

What, pray tell, is the "boy who said he had a bomb in his shoe"? Did any harm occur to an airliner because the boy said he had a bomb in his shoe?

???

steve32 Aug 31, 2007 7:48 am


Originally Posted by PatrickHenry1775
What, pray tell, is the "boy who said he had a bomb in his shoe"? Did any harm occur to an airliner because the boy said he had a bomb in his shoe?

The potential for causing panic in the area and injury to people trying to escape from the vicinity.

Treated similarly to yelling "Fire" in a crowded movie theater.

I would have thought after former presidential candidate Michael Dukakis did the same and got roughly treated that the lesson would have been fairly clear to others.

Steve

Superguy Aug 31, 2007 8:02 am


Originally Posted by steve32 (Post 8326174)
The potential for causing panic in the area and injury to people trying to escape from the vicinity.

Treated similarly to yelling "Fire" in a crowded movie theater.

I would have thought after former presidential candidate Michael Dukakis did the same and got roughly treated that the lesson would have been fairly clear to others.

Steve

I wonder if yelling "water" would have the same effect? :D

I think the only bomb we'll be finding at the checkpoint is TSA.


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