San Diego "dry run" false alarm

Old Jul 25, 07, 2:55 pm
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San Diego "dry run" false alarm

Found on Drudge:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...bn25false.html

The comments on the right column are especially entertaining, the best is Benitez, the last commentator.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 2:58 pm
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Originally Posted by fs2k2isfun View Post
Found on Drudge:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...bn25false.html

The comments on the right column are especially entertaining, the best is Benitez, the last commentator.
Kip Hawley has wet dreams about these types of people.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 3:03 pm
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Damn TSA exposed again.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 3:09 pm
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Most of those comments on the side of the article really get to me...especially the last 3.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by DL4EVR View Post
Most of those comments on the side of the article really get to me...especially the last 3.
The comments look like they were ripped straight from the Onion.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 3:22 pm
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...bn25false.html

Aguilar said TSA alerts are circulated on a daily basis to make sure they agency's staff has access to the latest security concerns, even if they later prove false or inconclusive.

“We get these all the time,” he said. “Almost all the time they prove false.”

TSA regional spokeswoman Jennifer Peppin said her agency has issued more than 90 bulletins in the past six months.

“It is really a standard way of communicating that information to the people out there on the front line,” Peppin said.
So, it's SOP to communicate generally false alerts on an every-other-day-basis in the name of safety and security "information"?

Continually cranking on the fear machine will eventually break it.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by DL4EVR View Post
Most of those comments on the side of the article really get to me...especially the last 3.
These people should be locked in their homes so their irrational fears won't threaten the liberty of the rest of us.

Stupid idiots.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 3:58 pm
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LOL. You crack yourselves up.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 4:45 pm
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Old Jul 25, 07, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by essxjay View Post
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...bn25false.html



So, it's SOP to communicate generally false alerts on an every-other-day-basis in the name of safety and security "information"?

Continually cranking on the fear machine will eventually break it.
Um, this is internal stuff she's talking about, not press releases. Stuff to FAMs and TSOs and sometimes FFDOs and local airport LEOs. Stuff the people out on the pointy end want to know, not John and Jane Doe.

This one was too, just someone put it out. It was not a TSA press release, it was leaked.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 5:43 pm
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In all, it took about three hours for the woman's luggage to be cleared by security officials.

After the packs were cleared, the woman told authorities she didn't want to keep them and they were thrown away, Sanfilippo said.
Guess this is what happens today when Granny has to spend her whole social security check on the plane ticket & rely on leaky gel packs & old meat for something to eat on her vacation.

How much you want to bet they weren't wearing clean gloves when they unwrapped the old meat?
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Originally Posted by law dawg View Post
Um, this is internal stuff she's talking about, not press releases. Stuff to FAMs and TSOs and sometimes FFDOs and local airport LEOs. Stuff the people out on the pointy end want to know, not John and Jane Doe.

This one was too, just someone put it out. It was not a TSA press release, it was leaked.
The TSA had only four instances to base "dry runs" on and one of the four has now been totally discredited. The "facts" were not the facts. What are the odds concerning the veracity of the others?

The TSA is putting out too many bulletins such that the level of static is drowning out what, if any, real threats there have been. It's the same problem and mindset with having too many items being classified as "prohibited" and thus not allowed airside.
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Although experts are praising the TSA over this, it's come to light that these 'incidents' (one of which has been officially discredited) occurred over a fairly long time frame - well over 12 months, which pretty much eliminates even the slightest chance they were 'probes', especially given a total lack of linkage between the people involved in each incident.

Whereas I had abit of a neutral hat on earlier today, the skeptic in me has returned, and given the recent flurry of 'gut feelings' and terrorist warnings, this document is starting to look like something deliberately leaked to the media in order to demonstrate to the public "hey, there's some dangerous stuff going on, but we're right on top of it". A rather convoluted PR stunt.

If the TSA was 'on top things', we'd have the chemical scanners at every checkpoint and baggage inspection area - and we would have had them installed and running a few years ago.
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“The information that we have in the report is for official use only and I am not going to discuss our sources,” White said.
Typical bureaucrat reaction. When called on something, just declare it as "secret", "SSI" or "OUO" and hide.

Thank goodness for a free press.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 8:57 pm
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“The information that we have in the report is for official use only and I am not going to discuss our sources,”

Lies.

No proof, no evidence.
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