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HeHateY May 3, 2007 5:41 pm

"denied...exit from the U.S." ???
 
From the new Vaterland-sicherheit program for "redress"

<quote>
The Department of Homeland Security's Travel Redress Inquiry Program (DHS TRIP) is a single point of contact for individuals who have inquiries or seek resolution regarding difficulties they experienced during their travel screening at transportation hubs--like airports and train stations--or crossing U.S. borders, including:

(snip)
denied or delayed entry into and exit from the U.S. at a port of entry or border checkpoint
</quote>

Citizens, can we really be denied exit from the Neocon-paradise??

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/redress/index.shtm

whirledtraveler May 3, 2007 5:50 pm

A true American would never want to leave.

sqwert May 3, 2007 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by HeHateY (Post 7683650)
From the new Vaterland-sicherheit program for "redress"

<quote>
The Department of Homeland Security's Travel Redress Inquiry Program (DHS TRIP) is a single point of contact for individuals who have inquiries or seek resolution regarding difficulties they experienced during their travel screening at transportation hubs--like airports and train stations--or crossing U.S. borders, including:

(snip)
denied or delayed entry into and exit from the U.S. at a port of entry or border checkpoint
</quote>

Citizens, can we really be denied exit from the Neocon-paradise??

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/redress/index.shtm

I can think of several dozen reasons to be denied EXIT from the US.

Can anyone say "Felon" ? "Wanted fugitive" ? "Michael Jackson" ?

Jim

Random_Flyer May 3, 2007 6:45 pm

If you actually read the text as quoted it doesn't even come close to implying that someone would be denied exit from the US.

There are plenty of legit complaints to make about the TSA. No need to get worked up crying wolf.

1995hoo May 3, 2007 6:53 pm

It is illegal to prevent someone from leaving the USA except in cases where the person is facing criminal charges or the like. That's why there is no passport control upon exiting the country.

whirledtraveler May 3, 2007 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by Random_Flyer (Post 7683903)
If you actually read the text as quoted it doesn't even come close to implying that someone would be denied exit from the US.

I'm sure there's a very good reason for mentioning it if it doesn't happen. :rolleyes:

Global_Hi_Flyer May 3, 2007 7:46 pm


Originally Posted by whirledtraveler (Post 7683689)
A true American would never want to leave.

A true American would never want to see anything or anybody outside the USA. ;)

AAaLot May 4, 2007 6:34 am


Originally Posted by 1995hoo (Post 7683941)
It is illegal to prevent someone from leaving the USA except in cases where the person is facing criminal charges or the like. That's why there is no passport control upon exiting the country.

I am not doubting you, but do you know legally why?

bdschobel May 4, 2007 6:41 am

There is a Federal crime called something like "flight to avoid prosecution." It's a quick and easy way to turn a routine state crime into a Federal offense.

Bruce

1995hoo May 4, 2007 6:46 am


Originally Posted by AAaLot (Post 7685831)
I am not doubting you, but do you know legally why?

No, but it's been longstanding US law that you can't prohibit someone from leaving who wants to leave. I don't doubt that it's a reaction against historical governments that wouldn't let people travel without permission, just like some of the other freedoms that were traditionally taken for granted in this country were a reaction to things that were not allowed under British rule.

Spiff May 4, 2007 6:51 am


Originally Posted by 1995hoo (Post 7685867)
No, but it's been longstanding US law that you can't prohibit someone from leaving who wants to leave. I don't doubt that it's a reaction against historical governments that wouldn't let people travel without permission, just like some of the other freedoms that were traditionally taken for granted in this country were a reaction to things that were not allowed under British rule.

Since we're getting rid of so many unnecessary freedoms and civil liberties, it would be no surprise to see this one dropped too. It's for our safety and security, after all...

AAaLot May 4, 2007 7:14 am


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 7685887)
Since we're getting rid of so many unnecessary freedoms and civil liberties, it would be no surprise to see this one dropped too. It's for our safety and security, after all...

Are more importantly our children.

redbeard911 May 4, 2007 8:25 am


Originally Posted by sqwert (Post 7683700)
I can think of several dozen reasons to be denied EXIT from the US.

Can anyone say "Felon" ? "Wanted fugitive" ? "Michael Jackson" ?

Jim

Snoop Doggg?

stockmanjr May 4, 2007 11:49 am


Originally Posted by sqwert (Post 7683700)
I can think of several dozen reasons to be denied EXIT from the US.

Can anyone say "Felon" ? "Wanted fugitive" ? "Michael Jackson" ?

Jim

mark rich? Oh wait never mind he doesnt have to worry about that anymore :p

USCGamecock May 4, 2007 12:06 pm

On a flight ealier this year from Memphis to Amsterdam, there was an unformed agent asking if anyone if they had over 10k on them in cash. Wonder who they were looking for????


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