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bhatnasx Mar 28, 2007 6:50 pm

TSA "enhancement"
 
Saw this on the NW corporate newsletter site:

http://catalog.nwa.com/newsline/0307_09c.html

TSA Security Enhancements
Effective Wednesday, March 21, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has announced enhanced security procedures within the United States and its territories

The primary TSA enhancement is random screening of passengers at boarding gates. A second TSA enhancement is a random aircraft search. The TSA may conduct random visual inspection of the aircraft cabins prior to the commencement of passenger boarding.

While there is no intelligence that indicates a specific threat to aviation, this mobilization illustrates TSA’s ability to quickly and unpredictably deploy assets based on risk. The agency has developed a longer-term, sustainable plan with U.S. airport and airline partners for the entire U.S. aviation system

Xyzzy Mar 28, 2007 7:52 pm


Originally Posted by bhatnasx (Post 7487997)
...this mobilization illustrates TSA’s ability to quickly and unpredictably deploy assets based on risk.

What a bunch of BS.

Travellin' Fool Mar 28, 2007 7:55 pm

Dammit, now i can't stash that chainsaw and hockey mask on the seat. Seriously ... is going on here?

MikeMpls Mar 28, 2007 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by quoted by bhatnasx (Post 7487997)
While there is no intelligence that indicates a specific threat to aviation

In other words this is totally unnecessary.


Originally Posted by quoted by bhatnasx (Post 7487997)
this mobilization illustrates TSA’s ability to quickly and unpredictably deploy assets based on risk

But they just said there's no risk. This merely shows their ability to misallocate resources.


Originally Posted by quoted by bhatnasx (Post 7487997)
The TSA may conduct random visual inspection of the aircraft cabins

What the **** will TSA goons spot that an FA (or several) will overlook? It is not TSA's concern what equipment is on board an aircraft. About all they can hope to provide is a QA followup to the airplane cleaning crews. Heck, just give them toilet swabs & vacuum cleaners & fire the cleaning crews.

This is just insane.

MikeMpls Mar 28, 2007 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by Travellin' Fool (Post 7488307)
Dammit, now i can't stash that chainsaw and hockey mask on the seat. Seriously ... is going on here?

Now you have to waste space in an overhead bin or locker and close the doors.

They're only supposed to be doing a visual inspection, which I take to mean walking through the planes.

What legal authority do they even have to invite themselves onto the aircraft?

PatrickHenry1775 Mar 28, 2007 9:05 pm

The random screening at gates is alarming. If TSA screening at checkpoints is thorough, screening at gates is unnecessary. Passengers already have a hassle getting through checkpoints, with removing shoes, placing laptops into bins, and putting toiletries into baggies. What is the upside to this random screening if the checkpoint procedures are adequate?

flyinbob Mar 28, 2007 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by PatrickHenry1775 (Post 7488766)
The random screening at gates is alarming. If TSA screening at checkpoints is thorough, screening at gates is unnecessary. Passengers already have a hassle getting through checkpoints, with removing shoes, placing laptops into bins, and putting toiletries into baggies. What is the upside to this random screening if the checkpoint procedures are adequate?

It gives them the opportunity to "randomly" hassle people they don't like, such as those who use "freedom baggies", or show ANY disrespect toward commandant Kip, etc...

Texas_Dawg Mar 28, 2007 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by bhatnasx (Post 7487997)
The primary TSA enhancement is random screening of passengers at boarding gates. A second TSA enhancement is a random aircraft search. The TSA may conduct random visual inspection of the aircraft cabins prior to the commencement of passenger boarding.

What thuggery.

law dawg Mar 28, 2007 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by flyinbob (Post 7489038)
It gives them the opportunity to "randomly" hassle people they don't like, such as those who use "freedom baggies", or show ANY disrespect toward commandant Kip, etc...

Yeah, that's what people in the TSA do every day. They wake up thinking of new ways to hassle people, abuse civil liberties, etc. It has nothing to do with them trying to do a good job at all. Its all about harassment.....:rolleyes:

hoshman Mar 28, 2007 10:03 pm


Originally Posted by law dawg (Post 7489064)
Its all about harassment.....:rolleyes:

No its about a bureaucracy doing anything they can to justify their existance and expansion. A horrific waste of resource, but a great jobs program.

Lurker1999 Mar 28, 2007 10:07 pm

So now you'll have to play the walk slow, walk faster, walk slow game so some other sucker gets stopped.

coachrowsey Mar 28, 2007 10:23 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 7488290)
What a bunch of BS.

Can we all say it:
KIP HAWLEY IS AN IDIOT.

cpx Mar 28, 2007 10:40 pm


Originally Posted by bhatnasx (Post 7487997)
enhanced security procedures

More like enhanced harasssssssment.:td:


this mobilization illustrates TSA’s ability to quickly and unpredictably deploy assets based on risk.
Risk? :confused:
looks more like TSA is trying to have some job security..... finding
ways to keep themselves occupied and waste tax dollars. :td:


"KIP HAWLEY IS AN IDIOT" is an understatement. I'd say corrupt!!!!

Bobster Mar 28, 2007 11:04 pm

I made the extra effort to find the original source material, because I felt the corporate newsletter was likely a very incomplete summary. I went to Google and typed: TSA random screening gates. Now I'm exhausted after doing all that work nobody else could do. :p :p

Here: http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/20..._03132007.shtm

It's a surge at 5 airports, not nationwide. The newsletter failed to mention that little tidbit.

uva185 Mar 28, 2007 11:32 pm


Originally Posted by bhatnasx (Post 7487997)
A second TSA enhancement is a random aircraft search. The TSA may conduct random visual inspection of the aircraft cabins prior to the commencement of passenger boarding.

Uh-o, somebody warn the FA's to hide the water bottles. TSA will have a field day if they find the drink cart.

On a more serious note, anyone think they will re-enforce the liqiud ban at the gate?


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