Are minors exempt from the back-scatter x-ray?
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In the UK, I've never seen children who appeared to be under 12 years of age directed (or at least asked) if they'd like to go through the backscatter X-rays. Is that because the UK has decided they can't consent to that? If so, well and good.
Being forced to consent to a virtual strip search is just disgusting.
Being forced to consent to a virtual strip search is just disgusting.
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In the UK, I've never seen children who appeared to be under 12 years of age directed (or at least asked) if they'd like to go through the backscatter X-rays. Is that because the UK has decided they can't consent to that? If so, well and good.
Being forced to consent to a virtual strip search is just disgusting.
Being forced to consent to a virtual strip search is just disgusting.
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Um, "intent" is not always a valid defense. As for not seeing any "sexual parts of the body", why are the gender of the images shown on the tsa website identified?
http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/screen...ckscatter.shtm
I can see "sexual parts of the body" on the male picture and even on the female; certainly more than I'd be comfortable having shown off in an airport.
DO NOT FORGET that the computer SEES and CAN RECORD the "raw" image:
http://www.freedomisslavery.info/images/backscatter.jpg
http://newkai.com/mt/archives/images...tter-thumb.jpg
Even while DISPLAYING the "filtered" version:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/2...EIq_ou8Rf3ow--
So how long until your nekkid childrens are up on the YouTube, Citizen??
P.S. Seems to me that the raw image is subject the FOIA. Why Not?
http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/screen...ckscatter.shtm
I can see "sexual parts of the body" on the male picture and even on the female; certainly more than I'd be comfortable having shown off in an airport.
DO NOT FORGET that the computer SEES and CAN RECORD the "raw" image:
http://www.freedomisslavery.info/images/backscatter.jpg
http://newkai.com/mt/archives/images...tter-thumb.jpg
Even while DISPLAYING the "filtered" version:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/2...EIq_ou8Rf3ow--
So how long until your nekkid childrens are up on the YouTube, Citizen??
P.S. Seems to me that the raw image is subject the FOIA. Why Not?
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That is why there is such a stink about the degree of visibility of the human form on these machines. A scan is taken of the body and the computer decides where the edges are and where the sexual parts ought to be and reduces the detail in these areas. As far as the image of the raw data images ending up on Utube, aint gonna happen. Too many safeguards in place, the average TSO cannot get to that level of display information without passwords and other safeguards. AS far as intent is concerned, I never said that it was a defense, it is an element.
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The idiocy would be to not get the shoes removed. How can anyone say that nothing was in the shoes or on the feet unless the shoes are checked seperately. A pat down is just that, testing the texture of objects compared to the feel of soft tissue. If the shoes are on, a person cant feel soft tissue.
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I agree that far with you.
However, here's where I will disagree. At least one fairly high-up guy in the TSA was been busted for child porn IIRC... maybe the frontline screener isn't going to have access to the raw images, but that doesn't mean someone who does (or who can gain such access) won't take advantage of it.
However, here's where I will disagree. At least one fairly high-up guy in the TSA was been busted for child porn IIRC... maybe the frontline screener isn't going to have access to the raw images, but that doesn't mean someone who does (or who can gain such access) won't take advantage of it.
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The issue isn't about being modest. It's about my body being none of the government's damn business and at least trying to preserve 4th amendment rights. Getting nekkid (or allowing someone to see my body) should always be MY choice absent a warrant.
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The idiocy would be to not get the shoes removed. How can anyone say that nothing was in the shoes or on the feet unless the shoes are checked seperately. A pat down is just that, testing the texture of objects compared to the feel of soft tissue. If the shoes are on, a person cant feel soft tissue.
Then again, this is TSA, so should we be surprised?
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Do you trust the contractors inately? I don't. I also think they'd supply stuff to TSAers and TSA management under a whole host of situations too.
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The machine in PHX is physically not capable of storing images period.
This was a condition of the pilot test and the machine has been through a configuration audit.
Nothing to see here people, move on...........
This was a condition of the pilot test and the machine has been through a configuration audit.
Nothing to see here people, move on...........
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The idiocy would be to not get the shoes removed. How can anyone say that nothing was in the shoes or on the feet unless the shoes are checked seperately. A pat down is just that, testing the texture of objects compared to the feel of soft tissue. If the shoes are on, a person cant feel soft tissue.
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