Backscatter X-Ray at Phoenix is here
Feb 24, 2007, 9:26 am
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Feb 24, 2007, 9:28 am
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1) Actually, I was only showing the bipolar attitude moving in the opposite direction...and pointing out that your link was inaccurate.
2) I'm glad that you find time to work out daily, more Americans should do so. Sorry you took the post personal, but at least we all now know that you are proud of your chalk outline.
3) I do not see that it is intruive at all. It is not mandatory, only comes into play when alarms are activated, and shows a chalk outline.
4) I don't use Bowflex either, but it was easy to spell and served the purpose of discussion.
5) If you don't agree with a post, simply state that...thumping your chest, challenges, "double-dog dares", and personal attacks are usually ignored.
2) I'm glad that you find time to work out daily, more Americans should do so. Sorry you took the post personal, but at least we all now know that you are proud of your chalk outline.
3) I do not see that it is intruive at all. It is not mandatory, only comes into play when alarms are activated, and shows a chalk outline.
4) I don't use Bowflex either, but it was easy to spell and served the purpose of discussion.
5) If you don't agree with a post, simply state that...thumping your chest, challenges, "double-dog dares", and personal attacks are usually ignored.
Setting this little testosterone moment aside, let me make my point a different way.
1-Things are crawling in the wrong direction, a millimeter at a time, in increments of "it's temporary", 'it's only voluntary", "it's only for people who fail this other test","it's not intrusive".
2- This is a wild goose chase fueled by a perfect storm of fear, incompetence, stupidity and last but not least, corporate greed. I GARANTEE you that I can board an aircraft today with ten ceramic knives on me. Garanteed. I bet you a million dollars. Wanna know how I do it? It's not that hard. This country has spent countless billions of dollars since 9/11, AND I CAN STILL BOARD AN AIRCRAFT WITH 10 CERAMIC KNIVES ON ME.
So if you think for a second that this fancy kiddie porn disrobing device will prevent someone from doing what they want to do, I disagree.
Do you see that?
Feb 24, 2007, 9:33 am
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Only in America will people lift their shirts during Mardi Gras and Girls Gone Wild, go on Jerry Springer and talk about their lesbian dog's affair with their cousin, post disgusting or provocative pictures on MySpace and YouTube...and then complain about a chalk outline of their body being viewed...
Feb 24, 2007, 9:34 am
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Feb 24, 2007, 9:43 am
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I'm a cancer survivor that has CT scans twice a year and has had literally dozens in the past 7 years I have been dealing with this and I now avoid the sun and all forms of radiation that I can. There's no way in hell I am going to allow anyone to expose me to X-radiation that doesn't have my oncologist's approval. This will be interesting, because I have already let my employer know that I will not enter one of these devices and if that means I don't fly that day, they are going to have to buy me bus tickets instead.
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Feb 24, 2007, 9:52 am
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Feb 24, 2007, 10:06 am
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I believe your link goes to a description of the older model that was rejected. The newer models, as shown in the posts above, show only a chalk outline..not unlike that on "etch-a-sketch". But that seems to not be the real issue here. The fact that they are doing it at all will cause most here to discount any method offered, no matter how unintrusive the technology is. Only in America will people lift their shirts during Mardi Gras and Girls Gone Wild, go on Jerry Springer and talk about their lesbian dog's affair with their cousin, post disgusting or provocative pictures on MySpace and YouTube...and then complain about a chalk outline of their body discretely viewed by a same sex security agent after they have alarmed at the airport. Gotta love it. If a chalk outline of your one's body is a source of concern, try this: http://www.bowflex.com
Old images from another company not even the same equipment manafacturer.
The phoenix Backscatter machine is made by AS&E.
The images you reference are from the rapidscan machine (military application)
You people need to get your facts straight.
Feb 24, 2007, 10:09 am
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TSA is using filtered images from another company.
Lets get the facts straight.
Feb 24, 2007, 10:58 am
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Feb 24, 2007, 11:09 am
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That NY Times article has an absurd quote:
Who are the sheeple who write and believe this stuff? What does this newfangled X-Ray machine have to do with the liquid-explosive nonsense? Nothing!
Aviation security officials are rushing to bring new screening devices to airports because of the London-based plot last summer to use liquid explosives to blow up airliners headed to the United States.
Feb 24, 2007, 11:13 am
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The devices now used at the nation’s airports, the X-ray machine for carry-on bags and the metal detector for passengers, rely on 1950s-era technology that cannot reliably detect liquid or plastic explosives.
Earlier efforts by the federal security agency to introduce more advanced checkpoint technologies have stumbled, including the so-called puffer machines, which blow air on passengers to search for minute traces of explosives.
Earlier efforts by the federal security agency to introduce more advanced checkpoint technologies have stumbled, including the so-called puffer machines, which blow air on passengers to search for minute traces of explosives.
Redundant!
Feb 24, 2007, 11:38 am
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Radiation is radiation of the same sort in this case and show more than airport security needs to see anywhere.
And if someone is stupid enough to ingest explosives or is willing to attach pouches of liquid nitro in select containers along their clothing lines does the "filter" on the backscatter X-ray even "help"? No. Even without the "filter", these peddled goods are a waste and will do little more than result in lots of embarassing false alarms.
Feb 24, 2007, 11:47 am
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I've seen demonstrations where these x-ray devices can be readily fooled by water carried on person in pouches aligned with clothing lines that I see no reason why these devices would do any good against such a purported scenario either, especially as such a porter's just asking for a Darwin Award.
Feb 24, 2007, 11:47 am
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Evidently not until the Kool-Aid drinking travelers like this lady wise-up:
Here’s a link to today’s full story.
Here’s a link to today’s full story.
