Perhaps.

But dumping the terminals and nearly never finding the offender should be grounds for termination.

Is there any other occupation where you could 1) fail to perform your duty then 2) cause such a disruption your business was shut down for hours and still keep your job?

I mean, unless you were sleeping with the boss, no.

BUR is my relief-heaven alternative airport to LAX. One of the main reasons why I have been able to avoid LAX on many trips in/out of LA.

News link for what? I was in BUR. :confused:

Safely home now, and barely 30 minutes late.

Actually I think we need more of these terminal dumps. Listening in on my fellow pax quite a few thought the TSA incompetent. Even sheeple become enraged eventually ;)

As far as the British response vs. the TSA, I think the phrase "when there was a threat over a threshold" summarizes it nicely. The TSA would dump a terminal if someone got through with a bottle of water. They are frightened of their shadows, or at least their management is.

We have indeed become a nation of cowards.

I really can't think of one at the moment. It's like having thousands of Chris Farleys (Black Sheep) or Wards (Casino) or other examples of colossal screw-ups on the payroll that for one reason or another you just can't seem to get rid of. And now, they might be unionized, too. :td:

No. We have become a nation of people too willing to accept mediocrity so long as we get a free garbage can from the ward boss.

After 5 years, there should not be a need to dump a single terminal unless an active security situation has emerged.

Dumping terminals repeatedly has been shown to not be effective as a means for apprehending people who choose to violate the "sterile area." And it has no capability whatsoever at finding anything such a person might have stashed in the terminal.

The "sterile area" is a critically flawed concept. It, like the vast majority of the TSA's actions, is only effective at stopping or deterring someone who chooses to follow all of the TSA's rules.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand the flawed foundation upon which all of TSA "security" is built.

It has happened in the case of my business, losing us a day at home and our clients one extra day of our expenses.

We travel to do corporate training. Start at 8 Monday morning, teach 9 - 10 hours a day for 5 days. In winter we insist on Saturday departure from home to client site in case of weather delays. I just changed the policy to year-round due to the probability of security delays. Even if my airport isn't dumped, the plane I need to take could be delayed coming from a dumped airport.

As a result, all teaching assignments now cost the client 7 days of hotel instead of 6 (we fly out on Saturday mornings after teaching because the trainer is too wiped to try and make a Friday night flight.)

I'm not going to say anything about the IRA campaign (I was there too), except that it was a different enough situation as to be largely irrelevant to the current topic.

What I don't get about the OAK-BUR/LAX thing is how dumping a terminal at the "bad" guy's destination achieves anything remotely connected to security.

Did they rescreen everyone on the way OUT ? If not then doesn't he simply walk away with whatever imaginary threatening items he has ?

Did they search every terminal and plane at BUR/LAX for a b__b ?

:confused:

I'm not sure I'm getting this. Why would terrorists wanting to shoot up an airport need to have their guns smuggled in? Why wouldn't they just come in, guns blazing? They could pretty easily take down the TSA guys there to detect their weapons anyway.

Heck, an even scarier tactic (and one any terrorist with half a brain could think of) would be to have several of them stationed outside the terminal, or with bombs planted outside, and one guy trigger a terminal dump... and then shoot all the fish in a barrel as they come out.

Yes, I am fortunately hearing more and more people grumbling about how stupid things are now at the airport. Used to be they were all just of the "Whatever keeps me safe!" mentality; now, some are starting to question whether the measures taken truly do keep them safe or not (that's also the logical disconnect TierFlyer suffers from--equating kabuki security with real security and then thinking those who oppose the theatre are ignorant of the dangers out there).

I think the baggie carnival has gone a long way toward convincing the not-so-frequent fliers what a bunch of morons we've got in charge at the TSA and DHS.

Oh, please. The terrorists would NEVER think of that. :rolleyes:

Furthermore, once the passengers have been dumped past the checkpoint, the TSA considers them to be someone else's problem.

"Not My Job." :td:

Tel Aviv..., Rome..., Vienna.

The guns are probably in the back of the SUV along with the gasoline-filled Dasani bottles. Just in case.

"A million thoughts ran through my mind. Paranoia is a wonderful elixir for a stagnant imagination. Paranoia gives birth to options, and fear makes options feasible."
Jonar Nader, Z.