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LLM Sep 16, 2006 11:23 am

At least you got a reply. I got nothing nor anything from either her or the Boxer re my calls and emails re Lebanon.

VideoPaul Sep 16, 2006 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by Sosiouxme
Below are the relevant portions of the e-mail I received from my senator this morning in response to an e-mail I wrote to her after the 8/10 restrictions were imposed. Of note is that my post railed against the restrictions. The Senator's response seemed a little a canned - maybe I was sent the wrong form letter.



Oh, and Ms. Feinstein was kind enough to include a reference to the TSA website should I have any questions. She sucks.

--Sioux

Had you told Mizzzzzzzz Feinstein that you were a minority and the TSA's procedures made you unable to voice your opposition to some corportion's actions, you would have gotten a personal reply from the Senator.

I have an idea...next time, tell Mizzzzzzz Feinstein that you are a muslim and your holy Muhammad water was confiscated by the TSA. You can bet that she will snap to and make sure someone pays for your humiliation and emotional torture.

--PP

GUWonder Sep 17, 2006 10:10 pm


Originally Posted by VideoPaul
Had you told Mizzzzzzzz Feinstein that you were a minority and the TSA's procedures made you unable to voice your opposition to some corportion's actions, you would have gotten a personal reply from the Senator.

I have an idea...next time, tell Mizzzzzzz Feinstein that you are a muslim and your holy Muhammad water was confiscated by the TSA. You can bet that she will snap to and make sure someone pays for your humiliation and emotional torture.

--PP

Senator Feinstein has advocated for racist/tribalist profiling before, so the above example is not necessarily going to work as that's the group she has privately singled out before.

bollar Sep 18, 2006 2:34 pm

I received this form letter from Senator Cornyn today. I can assure you that the comments in my letter were not addressed -- as evidenced by the referral to the TSA site:


Thank you for contacting me about federal aviation security measures. I appreciate having the benefit of your comments on this matter.

As a result of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) increased screening procedures for all airline passengers. These enhanced security measures were necessary as the federal government redoubled efforts to safeguard the nation and those passing through America’s airports. As America continues to lead the War on Terror, we must be prepared to adapt to ever-changing threats against our homeland.

Over the past five years, stringent Department of Homeland Security and TSA standards have helped foil terrorist plots, including the most recent London-to-U.S. airline terror scheme. I understand your concerns regarding the effect post-September 11 aviation security regulations have had on passengers. I also recognize our need to ensure the safety of American travelers, and I will support initiatives that increase security without infringing upon the civil liberties of law-abiding citizens or impeding commerce or travel.

You may be certain that I will keep your concerns in mind should relevant legislation be considered by the Senate. If you are planning air travel, you may obtain a comprehensive list of security procedures and prohibited items at the TSA website, www.tsa.gov.

I appreciate having the opportunity to represent you in the United States Senate. Thank you for taking the time to contact me.

Sincerely,

JOHN CORNYN
United States Senator

Superguy Sep 18, 2006 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by bollar
I received this form letter from Senator Cornyn today. I can assure you that the comments in my letter were not addressed -- as evidenced by the referral to the TSA site:

I'd be half tempted to write a letter saying "Bzzzt. Wrong answer. Please try again." :td:

bseller Sep 18, 2006 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by bocastephen
If a Democratic Congress is elected, you can be sure things will not only get worse procedure wise, they will get more expensive as the Democrats say "hey, it's for your protection so pay up". Higher ticket/screening taxes and probably an extra user tax assessed against the airlines regardless of their financial condition.

I suspect you're right bocastephen - but one of the reasons would also be a desire to "seem" stronger on terror, and JoeBagODonuts seems very comfortable with the idea of Kabuki Security. On ABC's Roundtable this Sunday, I saw Cokie make the comment that 85% of Americans favor the H2O ban! :td: :td:

This is what we get when we have a new bureacracy.

What Reagan would have done would have met with mass hysteria at first (recall the concept of disbanding HEW and Dept of Ed) - but it may well have ended this idiocy on the part of a govt department that lives only to serve its own "lifespan".

Best, Dave

empedocles Sep 18, 2006 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by bseller
JoeBagODonuts seems very comfortable with the idea of Kabuki Security.

Have you asked him?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/member.php?userid=91218

;)

Global_Hi_Flyer Sep 18, 2006 6:05 pm

Not surprised to see that from Cornyn. He follows the administration in lockstep.

GUWonder Sep 18, 2006 6:27 pm

Anyone gotten a "good" written response from their elected legislators on this matter?

Superguy Sep 18, 2006 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
Not surprised to see that from Cornyn. He follows the administration in lockstep.

I think you mean goosestep. :D

Superguy Sep 18, 2006 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder
Anyone gotten a "good" written response from their elected legislators on this matter?

Here's the link I posted earlier that I got from my Congressman. He at least forwarded my comments on to Comrade Hawley.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=43

Big Mo Sep 18, 2006 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by Superguy
I'd be half tempted to write a letter saying "Bzzzt. Wrong answer. Please try again." :td:

I got an outdated, non-responsive form letter from Sen. Durbin a few months ago and wrote back addressing the specific problems with the letter. His response? The very same outdated, non-responsive form letter. I sent another letter a couple of weeks ago and got no response.
:rolleyes:

OTOH, the junior Senator from IL (Obama) actually has somebody reading the letters and updating the forms.

GUWonder Sep 18, 2006 9:56 pm


Originally Posted by Big Mo
I got an outdated, non-responsive form letter from Sen. Durbin a few months ago and wrote back addressing the specific problems with the letter. His response? The very same outdated, non-responsive form letter. I sent another letter a couple of weeks ago and got no response.
:rolleyes:

OTOH, the junior Senator from IL (Obama) actually has somebody reading the letters and updating the forms.

You should have heard Chertoff last week; he almost sounded reasonable compared to some of the chums on Capitol Hill. Of course, speaking with a forked tongue isn't ruled out -- especially not with him.

Boraxo Sep 18, 2006 10:24 pm

Actually Congress and Senators do track emails, letters and calls....if they get 1000 calls and 90% are on the same side they will re-consider their position. The problem here is that most of the traveling public is willing to put up with these inconveniences because they fly so infrequently. So they are not getting 1000s of daily calls, more like a handful.

I personally think creative protests which get media attention are far more effective. They don't require a lot of people, but they do require some creativity and a story hook...and with some luck a slow news day. :)

Unfortuately TSA seems to be winning the current media battle. Plenty of stories in USA Today, NYT, television etc which spout the party line. It will take some real effort if we want to tell our side of the story. Maybe we should have a day when everyone brings toothpaste thru the metal detectors and then writes a nice message in every airport lav. But I doubt you could find enough people to risk fine or imprisonment for this cause. :eek:

GUWonder Sep 18, 2006 10:54 pm


Originally Posted by Boraxo
Actually Congress and Senators do track emails, letters and calls....if they get 1000 calls and 90% are on the same side they will re-consider their position. The problem here is that most of the traveling public is willing to put up with these inconveniences because they fly so infrequently. So they are not getting 1000s of daily calls, more like a handful.

Responsiveness to constituents is not always such that a flood of calls/communications will result in a position shift. (Sen. Stevens of Alaska is just one big lover of the carry-on luggage crackdown.) Also, there's that whole "can my opponent use this against me in the next election" thing.


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