WP: banned items fly past security
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I believe that the TSA screeners also believe that this ban is ridiculous and are ignoring the fact that people have hand cream, shampoo, etc in their bags. Unless a supervisor was doing the search with you, they dont' know if you've ignored something. This is only my opinion, but I really believe that they do see the prohibited items, but are ignoring them.
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This about says it all
"Gary Boettcher, a pilot and president of the Coalition for Airline Pilots Association, a trade group that closely tracks security issues, said he constantly sees people drinking from illicit bottles of water or putting on lip gloss when he walks through the passenger cabin. Most of the time, he said, it doesn't bother him.
"They are just doing their routines like they always did," Boettcher said. "An old woman drinking a bottle of water doesn't concern me. . . . The whole screening process is a facade to make the public feel safe, to show that the government is doing something."
"They are just doing their routines like they always did," Boettcher said. "An old woman drinking a bottle of water doesn't concern me. . . . The whole screening process is a facade to make the public feel safe, to show that the government is doing something."
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"Others, however, say they're simply not going to tolerate the new rules. They admit that they ignore the restrictions, slipping expensive cologne, perfume, lip gloss, lotion and other ointments into their carry-on bags or into their pockets in hopes of sneaking them past security. Some of the items get flagged by screeners, others do not."
That's right, Comrade Hawley. Screw you, you incompetent hack.
"Travelers must realize this isn't a game," Howe said. "The threat is real and it continues, and we appreciate the public's cooperation. Is it the perfect system? No. But does it make it right to sneak things through security? No, it doesn't."
It is a game and a stupid one at that. You can take your cooperation and cram it where the sun don't shine.
"They are just doing their routines like they always did," Boettcher said. "An old woman drinking a bottle of water doesn't concern me. . . . The whole screening process is a facade to make the public feel safe, to show that the government is doing something."
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That's right, Comrade Hawley. Screw you, you incompetent hack.
"Travelers must realize this isn't a game," Howe said. "The threat is real and it continues, and we appreciate the public's cooperation. Is it the perfect system? No. But does it make it right to sneak things through security? No, it doesn't."
It is a game and a stupid one at that. You can take your cooperation and cram it where the sun don't shine.
"They are just doing their routines like they always did," Boettcher said. "An old woman drinking a bottle of water doesn't concern me. . . . The whole screening process is a facade to make the public feel safe, to show that the government is doing something."
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"Travelers must realize this isn't a game," Howe said. "The threat is real and it continues, and we appreciate the public's cooperation. Is it the perfect system? No. But does it make it right to sneak things through security? No, it doesn't."
And at least with what this story says, a lot of people don't seem to care either. ^
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Originally Posted by bambi47
I believe that the TSA screeners also believe that this ban is ridiculous and are ignoring the fact that people have hand cream, shampoo, etc in their bags. Unless a supervisor was doing the search with you, they dont' know if you've ignored something. This is only my opinion, but I really believe that they do see the prohibited items, but are ignoring them.
2 weeks ago at DFW one of my teammates lost her eye-color makeup. She said she was tired of it anyway. the screener said "We find eveything at DFW we run a tight station".
I have a warm, fuzzy, secure womb like feeling (NOT!)
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Originally Posted by Article
"Travelers must realize this isn't a game," Howe said. "The threat is real and it continues, and we appreciate the public's cooperation. Is it the perfect system? No. But does it make it right to sneak things through security? No, it doesn't."
Sorry, Ms Howe - your boss, Half-Wit Hawley, is an inhumane sack of crap. So is his boss, Comrade Chertoff. Banning water during mid-August is an atrocity, not part of an effective security plan.
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Fantastic story. WP is one of the few papers that is not afraid to take on the government generally and the TSA in particular, unlike the chicken-**** New York Times and USA Today (see other recent threads).
Many good quotes including the following: Metal detectors at security checkpoints cannot sense plastic items that may contain liquids or gels.
As I thought. Anybody else planning to use their pockets to carry-on toothpaste, sanitizers and other items that pose no threat to safety?
Many good quotes including the following: Metal detectors at security checkpoints cannot sense plastic items that may contain liquids or gels.
As I thought. Anybody else planning to use their pockets to carry-on toothpaste, sanitizers and other items that pose no threat to safety?
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Originally Posted by Boraxo
Anybody else planning to use their pockets to carry-on toothpaste, sanitizers and other items that pose no threat to safety?
El Comrade and his half-a-wit sidekick, Hawley, severely underestimate the concealment ops available to wearers of feminine undergarments. Garters, thigh highs and decolletage'-enchacing items are replete with strategic hiding places.
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Poll
Did any of you click on the "poll" in the link asking if you'd sneak items on board? I'd suggest you do so and respond to it.
According to the poll results, at the time I clicked, over 60% of responders thought that the ban was proper as it was for our safety.
According to the poll results, at the time I clicked, over 60% of responders thought that the ban was proper as it was for our safety.
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I'm starting to think that the liquid ban is really a positive development. It's impossible to enforce, and people actively circumvent it. It also contributes to a growing recognition that the TSA is clueless and that we, in fact, are subject to "security theater."
At this point, I hope they keep it up.
At this point, I hope they keep it up.
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Originally Posted by Boraxo
Anybody else planning to use their pockets to carry-on toothpaste, sanitizers and other items that pose no threat to safety?
Great article. I loved the pilot's comments ^

