I bought a car today...
Aug 31, 2006, 9:13 am
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I bought a car today...
As part of reducing my air travel...I bought a car today
When I was signing the papers the manager told me he was happy to report to me that I was not a terrorist.
Apparently before can sell a car he needs to check with Homeland Security to make sure I am not a terrorist.
Does anyone know anything about this?
When I was signing the papers the manager told me he was happy to report to me that I was not a terrorist.
Apparently before can sell a car he needs to check with Homeland Security to make sure I am not a terrorist.
Does anyone know anything about this?
Aug 31, 2006, 9:43 am
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Don't know anything about cars, but I do know that as a non-profit organization we are supposed to sign a form from each United Way from which we receive funds stating that we have read the Patriot Act and checked the 900,000 name list of potential terrorists and that none of them give to our organization and that we don't use our donations to support terrorism.
I understand that perhaps we will be required to do the same for each and every private foundation that gives us money.
Allegedly, if we don't sign the form we don't get any money from the United Way even though donors have designated to their UW donations to come to us.
I understand that perhaps we will be required to do the same for each and every private foundation that gives us money.
Allegedly, if we don't sign the form we don't get any money from the United Way even though donors have designated to their UW donations to come to us.
Aug 31, 2006, 11:58 am
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I had to sign a variety of "I'm not a terrorist" documents to obtain bililng identification numbers for Medicare and Medicaid. I can't quite figure out the logic behind asking me those questions.
Aug 31, 2006, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Mats
I had to sign a variety of "I'm not a terrorist" documents to obtain bililng identification numbers for Medicare and Medicaid. I can't quite figure out the logic behind asking me those questions.
Aug 31, 2006, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Mats
I had to sign a variety of "I'm not a terrorist" documents to obtain bililng identification numbers for Medicare and Medicaid. I can't quite figure out the logic behind asking me those questions.
Isn't the fantasy world the Government lives in fun?900,000 potential terrorists....are they kidding? What criteria gets someone on this watch list?
Aug 31, 2006, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Because if you were really a terrorist, of course you would fill in the form accordingly and say so Isn't the fantasy world the Government lives in fun?
900,000 potential terrorists....are they kidding? What criteria gets someone on this watch list?
Isn't the fantasy world the Government lives in fun?900,000 potential terrorists....are they kidding? What criteria gets someone on this watch list?
Aug 31, 2006, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Because if you were really a terrorist, of course you would fill in the form accordingly and say so Isn't the fantasy world the Government lives in fun?
900,000 potential terrorists....are they kidding? What criteria gets someone on this watch list?
Isn't the fantasy world the Government lives in fun?900,000 potential terrorists....are they kidding? What criteria gets someone on this watch list?
However, I did at some point manage to find "the list" on line and the print is so small it can't be read, not even if it's magnified.
Aug 31, 2006, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by red456
I said 900,000 somewhat facetiously. However, I did at some point manage to find "the list" on line and the print is so small it can't be read, not even if it's magnified.
However, I did at some point manage to find "the list" on line and the print is so small it can't be read, not even if it's magnified.
What is an SDN?
As part of its enforcement efforts, OFAC publishes a list of individuals and companies owned or controlled by, or acting for or on behalf of, targeted countries. It also lists individuals, groups, and entities, such as terrorists and narcotics traffickers designated under programs that are not country-specific. Collectively, such individuals and companies are called "Specially Designated Nationals" or "SDNs." Their assets are blocked and U.S. persons are generally prohibited from dealing with them.
As part of its enforcement efforts, OFAC publishes a list of individuals and companies owned or controlled by, or acting for or on behalf of, targeted countries. It also lists individuals, groups, and entities, such as terrorists and narcotics traffickers designated under programs that are not country-specific. Collectively, such individuals and companies are called "Specially Designated Nationals" or "SDNs." Their assets are blocked and U.S. persons are generally prohibited from dealing with them.
Aug 31, 2006, 4:22 pm
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Send Gerard Arpey a copy of your sales receipt.
Tell him that you would have preferred to spend the money on AA, but unfortunately there is currently a culture of hAArAAssment in place at airports.
Tell him that you would have preferred to spend the money on AA, but unfortunately there is currently a culture of hAArAAssment in place at airports.
Aug 31, 2006, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by jonesing
Most organizations use software to scan the lists. Ours uses a thrid-party source to do verification of agencies that get donations from us. HR also uses the same service to vet potential subcontractors whether they are software engineers or the construction crew building a new lab. The reports look similar to this.
Note that banks and other financial institutions have to scan multiple lists for OFAC, BSA and PATRIOT Act compliance.
Note that banks and other financial institutions have to scan multiple lists for OFAC, BSA and PATRIOT Act compliance.
Aug 31, 2006, 5:03 pm
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My employer is having a United Way fund drive this week. I guess I won't bother signing up.
Aug 31, 2006, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by red456
Don't tell anybody but none of the organizationsthat I know anything about, with the exception of the United Way, bother with this nonsense. There are too many good works to be done without wasting time helping the government find "terrorists".
Aug 31, 2006, 5:09 pm
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Originally Posted by JS
My employer is having a United Way fund drive this week. I guess I won't bother signing up.
Aug 31, 2006, 5:13 pm
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Did you buy an American car? I hear you have to get security screened first.
Aug 31, 2006, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by AAaLot
Apparently before can sell a car he needs to check with Homeland Security to make sure I am not a terrorist.
