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KSinNYC Dec 9, 2005 5:17 pm

I have taken a tripod through at SFO and will try to find the TSA rule that permits them. (I asked the same Q on FT and somebody posted a link... maybe try using search?) Personally I thought it was idiotic that I couldn't bring my nail clippers but I could bring a heavy tripod. :rolleyes:

Also at SFO, I once tried to take my boyfriend's rolly bag to the AC (he had a last minute meeting at work, so he dropped me off with both bags, so he could take BART from work). The gate checker told me that I couldn't take an extra bag and swore that it was AA's policy. I went to the AA counter and they swore it was the TSA's policy. I asked both people to stand next to each other and help me figure out the situation -- they argued with each other and I finally resolved it by stuffing my shoulder bag into one of the rollybags.

bambi47 Dec 9, 2005 7:25 pm

The rules I read said that the TSA will allow you to carry one musical instrument in addition to 1 carry on and 1 personal item. But, the airline may not allow the additional carry on. It means, if the airline will allow the extra bag, its ok with us too. If the airline says no on the instrument, the TSA goes along with them. Sounds like an airline rule to me.

FWAAA Dec 9, 2005 11:01 pm


Originally Posted by bambi47
The rules I read said that the TSA will allow you to carry one musical instrument in addition to 1 carry on and 1 personal item. But, the airline may not allow the additional carry on. It means, if the airline will allow the extra bag, its ok with us too. If the airline says no on the instrument, the TSA goes along with them. Sounds like an airline rule to me.

I called the President and he confirms for me that the carryon limit of one carryon plus one personal item, the law of the land since October 8, 2001, is indeed a federal rule (of the TSA). Call him if you disagree with me.

bambi47 Dec 10, 2005 8:13 pm


Originally Posted by FWAAA
I called the President and he confirms for me that the carryon limit of one carryon plus one personal item, the law of the land since October 8, 2001, is indeed a federal rule (of the TSA). Call him if you disagree with me.

The president didn't even sign the Aviation and Security Transportation Act until Nov. 19, 2001. There was no TSA on Oct 8, 2001 to have enacted such a law. Get your facts straight. The limitations on the amount of bags allowed and their size is indeed an airline policy. Why would the TSA limit the number of bags you have or their size, your not getting on our airplane. We could care less if you have a hundred bags, the amount is not our concern. We are only concerned with the contents.

Deeg Dec 10, 2005 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by FWAAA
No problemo. AFAIK, there is no CFR containing the "one plus one" carryon limit.

I can't believe there's still an argument over who determines the number of carry-ons allowed. A quick Google search turned up 14 CFR 121.589, which states that an airline may not allow carry-on luggage unless they have an approved "carry-on baggage program".

On October 8, 2001, as was stated previously, the FAA made the requirement that air carriers limit carry-ons to one bag plus one personal item.

It appears that most of Title 14 of the CFR stayed with the FAA and was not transferred to the TSA (at least as near as I can tell). The TSA administers rules found in Title 49 of the CFR.

Therefore, it is not an airline policy nor a TSA rule. It's an FAA rule.

bambi47 Dec 10, 2005 8:49 pm


Originally Posted by Deeg
I can't believe there's still an argument over who determines the number of carry-ons allowed. A quick Google search turned up 14 CFR 121.589, which states that an airline may not allow carry-on luggage unless they have an approved "carry-on baggage program".

On October 8, 2001, as was stated previously, the FAA made the requirement that air carriers limit carry-ons to one bag plus one personal item.

It appears that most of Title 14 of the CFR stayed with the FAA and was not transferred to the TSA (at least as near as I can tell). The TSA administers rules found in Title 49 of the CFR.

Therefore, it is not an airline policy nor a TSA rule. It's an FAA rule.

Thanks for finding that. I knew it wasn't our policy, but people love to tell me I'm wrong. :)

FWAAA Dec 12, 2005 11:21 am


Originally Posted by bambi47
Thanks for finding that. I knew it wasn't our policy, but people love to tell me I'm wrong. :)

When posters hold themselves out as government employees, is it too much to ask that they post accurate statements of the rules? Not talking about your opinions - talking about the rules as posted on your employer's website.

In post #3, you posted the following:


Originally Posted by bambi47
<snip>
TSA has no rules as to how many pieces of carry on you can have. If the airline lets you through with 10, as long as there are no prohibited items, you can have 10. the rules for luggage are airline rules.

Which is directly contradicted by several portions of the TSA website, quoted in previous posts. "No rules"?? Nope. The TSA has plenty of rules limiting carryons.


Originally Posted by bambi47
The president didn't even sign the Aviation and Security Transportation Act until Nov. 19, 2001. There was no TSA on Oct 8, 2001 to have enacted such a law. Get your facts straight. The limitations on the amount of bags allowed and their size is indeed an airline policy. Why would the TSA limit the number of bags you have or their size, your not getting on our airplane. We could care less if you have a hundred bags, the amount is not our concern. We are only concerned with the contents.

"Get my facts straight"? Uhh, I covered this in post #30 (several posts prior to your post quoted above). Perhaps you overlooked it. I said "Nope. It was enacted by the FAA about six weeks prior to the legislation creating the TSA."

"Get my facts straight"?? Guess the hue and cry for courtesy and civility only run one direction.

Have a nice day, officer.


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