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Originally Posted by GUWonder
"The sound of music must be stopped." So says Hamas too. :td: :td:
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Originally Posted by DMorris
Most Khalafs I have come across in the US are Muslims.
If the lyrics to his songs are as stated, then I'm sure that people have issues with that person having access to checked luggage just before it goes to the planes. I don't think that a Secret Service agent detailed to guard the President would be around very long if the agent released a song about wacking the President. |
Originally Posted by ND Sol
He was on a local radio station this morning. He is a Christian originally from Palestine.
If the lyrics to his songs are as stated, then I'm sure that people have issues with that person having access to checked luggage just before it goes to the planes. I don't think that a Secret Service agent detailed to guard the President would be around very long if the agent released a song about wacking the President. A quick look at what was supplied by a prior poster here makes it clear that this individual's lyrics are vulgar; and, regardless of his faith, he who uses that kind of vulgarity so loosely is probably likely to use that against TSA subjects too. Who wants to bet that this "controversy" puts a few extra dollars in his pocket as a result of this publicity that a simple termination would not have? |
He is a Christian originally from Palestine. He just sounds like someone who has some anger issues. ;) |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
"The sound of music must be stopped." So says Hamas too. :td: :td:
Who would have thought music would be considered a national security threat by free people in a free country. I remember when children were listening to junk rap like "Public Enemey" and "security-at-any-cost"-types were all concerned the children were going to grow up to be cop killers and the like. Of course those fools failed to note that nationwide crime actually fell in the years thereafter. And then there were the parents who thought "role-playing games" were a public threat and America would be flooded by devil-worshipping, human-sacrificing youth if the games were not stopped. Foolishness survives while humanity struggles. :( Although I appreciate that you jumped to the aid of this idiot because you feel that the "security at all cost" fools should have no say in the government, and that true Americans feel that everyone has the right to due whatever whenever, sometimes common sense should play a role in people's actions. This guy should be fired for stupidity, if nothing else. I don't want my police chief wearing shirts glamourizing marijuana, my school teachers telling kids to drop out, my pastor going to Marliyn Manson concerts, or my screeners rapping about destroying America. How tight would your butt get if your pilot played this over the p.a. after take off? If removing these people from their position for this type of behavior is a violation of their rights, then violate their rights and ship them to a more "accepting" country. It time we stopped apologizing for using common sense in this country, and started worrying more about the rights of all against one. For too long we have held the attitude of "We would rather die than to violate someone's rights and hurt their feelings". How many more times will others take us up on this before we wisen up? Have a great day "security at all cost" types! :p |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Would you also say: "I'd just as soon not have Muslim [intelligence analysts] who [write books] about terrorism in sensitive security positions, thank you very much"?
... and would you also say: "I'd just as soon not have [Christian intelligence analysts] who [write books] about terrorism in sensitive security positions, thank you very much"? |
Originally Posted by ender83
I don't know his music or lyrics, but if he is indeed talking about blowing up buildings with airplanes... doesn't that strike you as a bit of conflict of interest for a TSA screener?
I'm all about civil liberties, but free speech is not absolute. GUWonder's defense of the self-described "Arabic Assassin" is mind-boggling. Newsday describes Mr. Khalaf's lyrics thusly: HOUSTON -- When Bassam Khalaf raps, he's the Arabic Assassin. His unreleased CD, "Terror Alert," includes rhymes about flying a plane into a building and descriptions of himself as a "crazy, suicidal Arabic ... equipped with bombs." [. . .] Khalaf, 21, was hired on Jan. 16 and fired July 7, according to a TSA termination letter that cited his "authorship of songs which applaud the efforts of the terrorists on September 11th, encourage and warn of future acts of terrorism by you, discuss at length and in grave and alarming detail various criminal acts you intend to commit, state your belief that the U.S. government should be overthrown, and finally warn that others will die on September 11, 2005." I hope that GUWonder can take some comfort in the fact that Mr. Khalaf will now be able to concentrate all his energies on his wonderful and uplifting artistic endeavors. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by infinityplusone
What makes him a Christian (or a Muslim) for that matter?
He just sounds like someone who has some anger issues. ;) Yes, he does seem to either have some anger issues or a strong desire to do anything for money or fifteen minutes of "fame". His reference to a "plane crashing into a building" in the one song whose written lyrics I decided to review was a sexual reference where plane = male sexual organ and the building = female genital area. As I noted earlier, I don't care for this fellow, his lyrics, his messages or even his style of music.
Originally Posted by Dovster
I would just as soon not have Moslem, Christian, or Jewish [intelligence analysts] who [write books praising terrorism] in sensitive security positions, thank you very much.
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Originally Posted by hiltonhead
Although I appreciate that you jumped to the aid of this idiot because you feel that the "security at all cost" fools should have no say in the government, and that true Americans feel that everyone has the right to due whatever whenever, sometimes common sense should play a role in people's actions. This guy should be fired for stupidity, if nothing else. I don't want my police chief wearing shirts glamourizing marijuana, my school teachers telling kids to drop out, my pastor going to Marliyn Manson concerts, or my screeners rapping about destroying America. How tight would your butt get if your pilot played this over the p.a. after take off? If removing these people from their position for this type of behavior is a violation of their rights, then violate their rights and ship them to a more "accepting" country. It time we stopped apologizing for using common sense in this country, and started worrying more about the rights of all against one. For too long we have held the attitude of "We would rather die than to violate someone's rights and hurt their feelings". How many more times will others take us up on this before we wisen up?
Have a great day "security at all cost" types! :p It time we stopped apologizing for using common sense in this country, and started worrying more about the rights of all against one. |
Originally Posted by cAAl
Amen.
GUWonder's defense of the self-described "Arabic Assassin" is mind-boggling. Newsday describes Mr. Khalaf's lyrics thusly: Even if Mr. Khalaf was all talk and no action, I'd just as soon not have him screening bags at IAH. If nothing else, he demonstrated a clear lack of judgment. And good judgment is the one thing that we most need in our airport security screeners. The most vociferous critics of the TSA should certainly appreciate this. I hope that GUWonder can take some comfort in the fact that Mr. Khalaf will now be able to concentrate all his energies on his wonderful and uplifting artistic endeavors. :rolleyes: "I've been screening your bags for the past six months, and you don't even know it," said Khalaf, who also said Thursday that he is not really a terrorist and that his rhymes are exaggerations meant to gain publicity. "Controversy sells," Khalaf said. "It brings a lot of attention. Everybody wants to label all Arabics terrorists just because a couple of people messed up. Well, I'm going to play along with that character. I'm going to let you think I'm one." |
No secret that GUWonder and I don't see eye-to-eye on many things. This is one of those exceptions where we see it exactly the same way.
While Khalaf's lyrics may be offensive and not consistent with the job, I have to question TSA's justification of firing this screener for off-duty activities that do not violate any laws. If Khalaf was wearing his TSA uniform on the cover of one of his CDs, regardless of the nature of the CD, then I could see him being fired because he would be marketing himself as a TSA screener and this could be construed as deliberately misrepresenting TSA. It would fall under the same principles of making a public statement while wearing the uniform on behalf of TSA without proper authorization. (Same prinicple applies to most corporations where you need clearance from whatever management staff is responsible for public releases on behalf of the corporation/organization.) The greater harm here is that TSA acted on its own to fire this employee for activities that did not interfere with the workplace nor involved any criminal act. I mean, this is still America, right? We still have a right to express ourselves, right? Again, there's a difference between his making whatever brand of "music" he calls it on his own time and using his official position as a TSA screener to market that music, doing it while on the TSA clock or otherwise misrepresenting TSA. From what I read, he was discreet about it. It was TSA's "eyes and ears in the workplace" that sought him out and discovered his off-duty activities. Sorry, folks, that turd just doesn't flush. In the long run, this may actually boost Khalaf's budding music career. However, don't be surprised if some opportunistic lawyer jumps on this case to have Khalaf win back his job based on wrongful termination. While I try to explain why it is we do what we do at airports, I criticize TSA manglement for the way it handles certain issues. This is just another example of the overzealousness of certain TSA bosses who get carried away with their version of right and wrong or who cave in to public perceptions for all the wrong reasons. TSA dropped the ball on this one. |
When I think of this situation, I think of the employer who fired employees for smoking off-premises and on their own time. The justification given there was what? Higher insurance rates? Well, then charge the employee more than their colleagues.
Now, if this indivídual was marketing himself as a TSA employee while peddling his music, then I consider that fair grounds for termination ... much akin to police officers or firemen or flight attendants posing in various states of undress while using their uniform (including paraphernalia thereof) or something intended to be akin to their uniform. |
Originally Posted by cAAl
The most vociferous critics of the TSA should certainly appreciate this.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Your unsubstantiated claims left to their own devices (of trying to put words in other people's mouths), this
is what I expect from defenders of authoritarianism and more. Authoritarianism, like a love for "fifteen minutes of fame", is apparently quite seductive for some. Thankfully, it's not seductive for all. The ideal of everyone in a country being totally equal in pay, position, assets, ability, opportunities and status may be seductive to some. Thankfully, it's not for all. Some realize that this is an flawed Utopian logic that is best left to children's books. Have a great day all! :p |
"Everybody wants to label all Arabics terrorists just because a couple of people messed up."
-The Arabic Assassin Because a couple of people messed up???!!!???!!! Don't quit your day job, Arabic Assassin. Oh wait. You can't. Because YOU WERE FIRED!!! Ahahahahahahahahahaha |
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