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Originally Posted by channa
He did say it's a persuasive presentation. If there were no opinion, there'd be nothing to persuade. The whole point is to perusade the viewers to agree with his view.
Similarly, I'm sure the higher ups at TSA have to do their share of persuasion that they're actually doing someting, so as to ensure the agency receives continued funding... |
Originally Posted by Bart
Pretty amusing how you disguise your biased view towards TSA with this cute little presentation you intend to give with the illusion of fairness and unbias. The type of comments your post provoked should not be a surprise seeing as how this is a predominantly frequent flyer passenger website. You have a couple of options, and this is a matter of personal integrity on how you wish to pursue it:
a. Continue with your cute little charade, rack up all the little LOLs you can in this website and call it a day. b. Read the 9/11 Commission Report and see if the ATSA really answers the mail on the findings and recommendations posed by that committee. This is going to require some effort on your part. It's the more difficult of the two paths, but I challenge you to try nonetheless. Let's see how super you really are. |
Originally Posted by Superguy
Good stuff.
So with theft, do you mean stuff missing out of the baggage, or outright missing baggage? In the latter, I'd imagine that the airline would get stuck with the responsibility for the missing bag. Secondly, could you elaborate? Are you referring to checks between the counter and the plane, where you just get the "notice" that your bag was searched? Thanks. Super 2. Yes. Once again, keep in mind every other country in the world demands your presence if your bag is searched. A bunch of airports around the US actually have official TSA signs telling you to wait until your baggage has cleared. TSA is doing some stuff right though by having more screeners in the checkpoints and has researchers trying come up with better technologies (through private contractors) for screening. |
Originally Posted by JS
And you're not biased in favor the TSA? OK. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by JS
And you're not biased in favor the TSA? OK. :rolleyes:
The title should read Bash TSA here...and all positive replies are not welcome ...not only not welcome but sure to draw fire and entertain the folks... OP You have too much time on your hands.... :rolleyes: BUt I will add you are always respectful in your replies...because you know the TSA haters here will flock like the lemmings they are, and do the dirty work for you.... ;) I still give you props for your respecful replies.... ^ |
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Originally Posted by Athena53
Wanna buy a bridge? :D
Don't forget the Sharp and Pointy Object search. No knitting needles, manicure scissors, corkscrews, metal nail files, knives (even blunt kitchen knives).. what am I missing, guys? Help me here! Then there was the true story of the WW 2 hero who was taking his Congressional Medal of Honor with him on a trip to West Point and the drones at "security" tried to confiscate it because it had sharp edges. I'm a Toastmasters member and if I had this topic I'd have them rolling in the aisles or calling their Congressperson- or both. And if you want a good laugh at the end, point out that flying naked will make it far easier for them to pass through "security". |
Originally Posted by eyecue
All the bold stuff in your post isnt true. The medal of honor story is an urban legend. The other stuff might have been prohibited early on but is okay to take now.
Incorrect. Wrong. Even Snopes.com confirms the story is true. http://www.snopes.com/military/medal.htm Rep Mica is quoted in news stories in early 2002 complaining about the lunacy of prohibiting a Medal of Honor. |
Bart,
With all due respect, the 9/11 Commission Report is not even worth using as toilet paper. Most of the members were part of the problem, because they were in the national government on 9/11 and did nothing to prevent it. For a more sanguine view of the 9/11 Commission and airport security in the United States, I suggest consulting the Boyd Group site, http://www.aviationplanning.com/asrc1.htm. I realize that this is a consulting group trying to sell their services, but it is a business, private industry in what is still partly a free market system. |
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
Incorrect. Wrong. Even Snopes.com confirms the story is true.
http://www.snopes.com/military/medal.htm Rep Mica is quoted in news stories in early 2002 complaining about the lunacy of prohibiting a Medal of Honor. |
Originally Posted by Bart
Pretty amusing how you disguise your biased view towards TSA with this cute little presentation you intend to give with the illusion of fairness and unbias. The type of comments your post provoked should not be a surprise seeing as how this is a predominantly frequent flyer passenger website. You have a couple of options, and this is a matter of personal integrity on how you wish to pursue it:
As someone else mentioned, if you would actually READ the post, is that it's a persuasive presentation. I don't know how I could persuade somebody about something if I didn't have an opinion on it. :rolleyes: a. Continue with your cute little charade, rack up all the little LOLs you can in this website and call it a day.
Call it what you want. It's still a presentation that will be given Thursday. b. Read the 9/11 Commission Report and see if the ATSA really answers the mail on the findings and recommendations posed by that committee. This is going to require some effort on your part. It's the more difficult of the two paths, but I challenge you to try nonetheless. Let's see how super you really are. I also highly doubt that you would take the time to read such a convoluted government document yourself. I read government documents enough at work every day to know that the people that write them don't even understand what all is there. Were it the case, we wouldn't have loopholes and dumb laws being stricken down. And we've already had a discussion about the 9/11 commission in another thread. You put a lot more faith in it than I do. In your words, I would call it a "cute little charade." Knee jerk reactions are the last thing this government needs. It got us the Patriot Act. |
Originally Posted by Bart
Read the title of the thread
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Originally Posted by trixievictoria
See this is exactly as I thought.....another bashing thread... :rolleyes:
The title should read Bash TSA here...and all positive replies are not welcome ...not only not welcome but sure to draw fire and entertain the folks... OP You have too much time on your hands.... :rolleyes: BUt I will add you are always respectful in your replies...because you know the TSA haters here will flock like the lemmings they are, and do the dirty work for you.... ;) I still give you props for your respecful replies.... ^ |
Originally Posted by Wiirachay
1. Missing stuff from baggage. I think for outright missing baggage, I'd pin down the airline. TSA can't be THAT bad or incompetent! :eek:
2. Yes. Once again, keep in mind every other country in the world demands your presence if your bag is searched. A bunch of airports around the US actually have official TSA signs telling you to wait until your baggage has cleared. TSA is doing some stuff right though by having more screeners in the checkpoints and has researchers trying come up with better technologies (through private contractors) for screening. I did notice at BWI on my last flight that they did have a lot of people there, which was a good thing. The line was very long, but they did well enough to get us out of there in roughly 10 minutes. I didn't stand still in line. Now if we can get rid of the shoe carnivals and get some consistency, I think people would gripe a lot less. It looks like there are specific airports that are the problem, as there are ones that are quick and get things done quickly. For me, though, consistency is the key. That's what bugs me more than anything. If shoe carnivals are required, they should be required at all airports. If they're not, I shouldn't be subjected to the whims of the screener. Super |
Originally Posted by Superguy
Hey all,
I need to do a 10 minute persuasive presentation next week for a class I'm taking at work. I decided to do it on educating folks on what they can do to help make TSA less annoying. I'm definitely going to talk about shoe carnivals, and the pat downs. Also mention how complaints from people being patted down (especially women) helped get TSA to back off. Are there any other issues I can use? I've seen a few threads, and I'm going to use what's in them. However, are there any links to show numbers: ie complaints on the rise, patdowns increase, etc? Also, I've seen what some people can do: fill out the complaint form, call the FSD, and the obvious writing to Congress. Any other things? Also, if there are things that they are doing right, I'd appreciate knowing those as well. I don't want to sound too negative. :D |
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