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aschonland Dec 4, 2004 11:03 pm

Preflight Background Security Checks
 
As you are aware, we have a problem with international entering the US. When an aircraft takes off from say, Paris, the French authorities send a copy of the manifest to the DHS. They then check out the names of the passengers. Quite often they discover a passenger that does not qualify to enter ther US - the flight is then routed to Bangor, ME., and the passenger is removed and deported from Boston the same day. Remember the Cat Stevens story?

It occurred to us that might really be a problem- besides the huge delay stopping the flight which likely adds 2 hours trip time, imagine the hole in security if a "threat" is still able to get on the airplane? We have a short survey on the matter (http://www.iag-inc.com/int/interview.cfm?id=27) and are pleased to share the preliminary results. Please use this link to take a look.
http://www.iag-inc.com/data/preflight.pdf

LessO2 Dec 5, 2004 4:08 am

What US Customs has done recently on a couple of my flights is just hqve everyone displqy their passport as they de-plane. Once they get who they are looking for, no flashing of the passport is necessary.

aschonland Dec 5, 2004 3:21 pm

Perhaps you missed what I said - we need a better mthod of checking people BEFORE they get near the plane. Initial results from our survey indicate people agree with this idea strongly.


Originally Posted by LessO2
What US Customs has done recently on a couple of my flights is just hqve everyone displqy their passport as they de-plane. Once they get who they are looking for, no flashing of the passport is necessary.


whirledtraveler Dec 5, 2004 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by aschonland
As you are aware, we have a problem with international entering the US. When an aircraft takes off from say, Paris, the French authorities send a copy of the manifest to the DHS. They then check out the names of the passengers. Quite often they discover a passenger that does not qualify to enter ther US - the flight is then routed to Bangor, ME., and the passenger is removed and deported from Boston the same day. Remember the Cat Stevens story?

It occurred to us that might really be a problem- besides the huge delay stopping the flight which likely adds 2 hours trip time, imagine the hole in security if a "threat" is still able to get on the airplane? We have a short survey on the matter (http://www.iag-inc.com/int/interview.cfm?id=27) and are pleased to share the preliminary results. Please use this link to take a look.
http://www.iag-inc.com/data/preflight.pdf

That's a pretty loaded survey. The multiple choice questions don't even have options for people who are less concerned with security than the authors.

No, as long as they can catch dangerous terrorists like Cat Stevens, I'm not really concerned about security. :)

AArlington Dec 5, 2004 6:28 pm


Originally Posted by LessO2
What US Customs has done recently on a couple of my flights is just hqve everyone displqy their passport as they de-plane. Once they get who they are looking for, no flashing of the passport is necessary.

So after the plane has safely landed they look for suspects to reroute onto the Gitmo express?


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