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-   -   Isn't it either, or, really? (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/practical-travel-safety-security-issues/375140-isnt-either-really.html)

GUWonder Nov 28, 2004 12:17 pm
Originally Posted by tuner
It's a no win situation on the ground or in the air
What about the situation where a terrorist on the ground threatens say a cockpit crew's "loved ones" on the ground and tells said cabin crew persons they must do A in the air or face their "loved ones" being subject to B on the ground in the event that A in the air is not done?

tuner Nov 28, 2004 1:20 pm
Originally Posted by GUWonder
What about the situation where a terrorist on the ground threatens say a cockpit crew's "loved ones" on the ground and tells said cabin crew persons they must do A in the air or face their "loved ones" being subject to B on the ground in the event that A in the air is not done?

Again a no win situation but I believe that would fall under a different security thing I.E. kidnapping, extortion. It still no win

GUWonder Nov 28, 2004 3:35 pm
Originally Posted by tuner
Again a no win situation but I believe that would fall under a different security thing I.E. kidnapping, extortion. It still no win
... and if the criminal on the ground ordered the crew to crash the plane or see their family mutilated and/or killed, then what?

I don't see how the current variety of security does anything to address such.

tuner Nov 28, 2004 4:14 pm
Originally Posted by GUWonder
... and if the criminal on the ground ordered the crew to crash the plane or see their family mutilated and/or killed, then what?

I don't see how the current variety of security does anything to address such.
I think the current policy with all agencies federal,state, or local is not to negotiate with the persons that do this act. It would be in the hands of the pilot flying the aircraft. Let's hope that you or I or the person involved is never put in that position. Again a no win position for everyone involved

Spiff Nov 28, 2004 4:51 pm
Originally Posted by tuner
You are correct a knife is not a credible threat to the aircraft but it is a threat when a nut is holding it to the throat of a crewmember or someones love one telling the pilot to do something with the aircraft or they will kill that person. Yes they may only kill that one person before a brave passenger takes them out but I don't think I would want to be put in that position of making that decision.
The same thing could happen at the Mall. They sell steak knives at the Mall. Nice ones, too.

Originally Posted by tuner
Yes Ceramic weapons are a threat
I'm sorry, but they definitely are not.

Originally Posted by tuner
I think you should only be allowed to have ONE carry on item no larger than a normal size computer bag PERIOD.
Until the day comes where the TSA is fully accountable for checked baggage and is prohibited from opening said baggage without the owner present or explicit prior owner consent, I think the amount of carry on baggage should be unlimited.

Originally Posted by tuner
I bet 80% of the screeners at my airport are looking for other jobs, just because of the crap we have to put with. But that is a different story.
I wish them nothing but the best of success in finding other employment.


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