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N227UA Feb 6, 2004 9:31 pm

What is SSSS?
 
Hello folks.
I want to know what is SSSS.
I've found a lot of acronym every time when I read threads. However, someone tell me the definition.
Last year, on my first UA flight, it was printed on my BP.

HONOLULUJIMMY Feb 6, 2004 9:43 pm

Randon Security Check....not as in suspected teror person...computer generated!

Chuckles Feb 6, 2004 9:43 pm

http://woody.info/travel/news/templa...id=56&zoneid=1

UAL sycophant Feb 6, 2004 10:40 pm

Technically, people who get the SSSS are referred to as selectees.

Feorlen Feb 8, 2004 4:27 pm

I got my first one this week at SFO. I made Jet'Dillo come with me so although that means we both get the Royal Treatment, we also have two people to keep an eye on our stuff. They made a weak attempt to send him off on his own through the regular line (who would volunteer for this?) but I insisted. It took a good long time, we each had a laptop, two bags plus coats, shoes, my walking stick, etc.

I was not terribly fond of having my laptop sit around unattended on a table (but at least I could see it through the glass) or inspecting the contents of every single box, bag or package in my carry-on. (I like to sort things into clear plastic bags.)

RobotDoctor Feb 8, 2004 4:52 pm

SSSS also knows no preferential treatment. I was selected twice last year on UA/UX/US out of 130 flights. I am 2003 UGS so status has no effect on selection.


I was also selected once out of 4 DLX flights (where I Have no status). This happens so it is something we all have to put up with it.

flyinbob Feb 8, 2004 5:14 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by RobotDoctor:
SSSS also knows no preferential treatment. I was selected twice last year on UA/UX/US out of 130 flights. I am 2003 UGS so status has no effect on selection.


I was also selected once out of 4 DLX flights (where I Have no status). This happens so it is something we all have to put up with it.
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Even more reason why "random" searches are idiotic. Instead of putting their efforts into identifying real targets, they take the easy way out and do the random thing. Makes the once a year flyer to Grandma's think they are "safer" and the TSA is actually doing something.

And last time I checked this was still a democracy, so this is most certainly NOT something we have to put up with.

cblaisd Feb 8, 2004 5:39 pm

It appears the original poster's question has been asked and answered?

So further comments on this thread in this forum will probably be best related to UA, not TSA practices in general, etc. Those would be better in the Travel Security forum

Thanks,

Chuck
aka cblaisd
Moderator, United

ozstamps Feb 8, 2004 5:49 pm

Remember there is a way with UA anyway to get around this if you object to being searched and hassled for anything up to a few minutes.

Ask for another seat assignment. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

The "SSSS" goes away more often than not. (It is random.)

And then you can change your mind and ask UA for same seat back as you have before you changed your mind. Before you move from the podium. Same deal usually. No "SSSS"

It is an absurd and obvious tagging, and if the TSA thinks for one second that 90% of folks on a BB know it means they are ear-marked for extra searching, one might imagine after a couple of years that all potential terrorists might know about it too. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif

The other thing, with UA at least, is that the "SSSS" comes out real large on original BP. Like half inch high type size.

Last month I had seats I did not care to lose, even for an instant, so did not want to try cancelling the seat deal. So I asked RCC for another BP as mine had accidentally got mangled in my briefcase lock. Very mangled as she could see. Tragic. So the new BP from RCC came out with "SSSS" in a font the size of this BB.

I was not secondarily searched. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

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~ Glen ~ sipping bubbly from a UA 747-400 exit row 15 near you SOON!

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N227UA Feb 8, 2004 11:05 pm

Why United prints SSSS on BPs for the flights flying outside the USA?, while TSA doesn't interfere. I had very first UA flight in 2003 from ICN to NRT. SSSS was printed on my BP for that flight, even though that flight wasn't heading to the USA. That was the only SSSS that I've ever got, although I'm a minor and not a suspicious person.

Spiff Feb 8, 2004 11:33 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by N227UA:
Why United prints SSSS on BPs for the flights flying outside the USA?, while TSA doesn't interfere. I had very first UA flight in 2003 from ICN to NRT. SSSS was printed on my BP for that flight, even though that flight wasn't heading to the USA. That was the only SSSS that I've ever got, although I'm a minor and not a suspicious person.</font>
It's because the microcephalacs at the TSA demand that x% of all passengers be selectees so that they can keep their jobs. Otherwise, all those people who are now on the government dole would have no one to harass, and we can't have that, can we?

UA (and the other carrier) simply extends this BP designation to flights where they have 5th Freedom Rights so that the TSA can pat themselves on the back and say "by golly, x% of the passengers in the systems are selectees, we can continue to avoid going back to being Wal-Mart greeters."

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sftrvlr Feb 8, 2004 11:54 pm

Ah, how sad and pathetic the whole thing is. Why don't we just screen EVERYONE properly in the first place? Only had the dreaded SSSS on one flight, and that was AA, not UA. Just this week I flew on a one way ticket BOS-SFO with no advance purchase, etc., etc. and didnt'get the SSSS even then. Isn't that a terrorist-type activity with the one way, etc?


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ozstamps Feb 9, 2004 12:05 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by sftrvlr:

Just this week I flew on a one way ticket BOS-SFO with no advance purchase, etc., etc. and didn't get the SSSS even then. Isn't that a terrorist-type activity with the one way, etc?


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Be of "Middle Eastern" appearance, buy the one way and have a nice Anglo-Saxon name like Mustapha, Mohammad or Abdul and see how how you fare then http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif



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~ Glen ~ sipping bubbly from a UA 747-400 exit row 15 near you SOON!

sftrvlr Feb 9, 2004 12:19 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
Be of "Middle Eastern" appearance, buy the one way and have a nice Anglo-Saxon name like Mustapha, Mohammad or Abdul and see how how you fare then http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif

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Oh, so Bruce doesn't count then?
Good morning to you ...
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cblaisd Feb 9, 2004 12:20 am

This has little UA content at this point. Please continue to follow in the Travel Security/Safety forum.


Chuck
aka cblaisd
Moderator, United


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