What to expect from Customs when bringing back a $5,000 watch?
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I will never be in the postion of affording a $5000 watch, but couldn't your traveling companion simply wear the watch? I understand the ethical need to pay duty on alcohol, tobacco and other products, but this is something you wear. It's not a consumable product. Should duty be payable on what is simply an accessory? Just askin'
From within Europe you shouldn't need to pay duty anyway - From the GOV website
You do not pay duty or tax on goods you bring in from the European Union(EU) as long as you:
You do not pay duty or tax on goods you bring in from the European Union(EU) as long as you:
- . . .
- have paid duty and tax in the country where you bought them
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can you link us to the FAR source for this “each time” statement?
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It has always been the case that if you carry an expensive item through any customs they may require you to demonstrate that it was purchased within the country or that you have paid duty on it, unless you are a visitor and can convince them that you do not plan to leave the item in the country. Enforcement may be rather slack but it can happen. I don't know how it works now but when I used to visit Europe in a UK car it was advisable to purchase insurance which would cover returning the wreckage to the UK if the car was totalled as you would otherwise be liable for taxes on the value it had when you drove it in.
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I got a stamped card from Canadian customs with my watches serial number when I brought it back from Europe 15 years ago. All I need to show if they would ask. I don't travel with it for other reasons but it would be no hassle at all.
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I believe the law does not require what you think it does. I am not declaring the Hermčs ties I bought in France three months ago when I return from France next week because I don't have to. And, as I am sure you must know, Customs can pull up your history in a snap.
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I believe the law does not require what you think it does. I am not declaring the Hermčs ties I bought in France three months ago when I return from France next week because I don't have to. And, as I am sure you must know, Customs can pull up your history in a snap.
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...r-to-traveling
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Maybe not.
This is true.
Let's quantify things. If I bring in a Nikon D3 camera, Customs knows it's an old model whether or not I have a receipt with me. And it probably also has signs of wear as well. Want to make me pay duty, go ahead. Then wait for my appeal to be filed to have it returned.
I have had occasion in the past to have as much as three trips to Paris in one month. The worst thing that ever happened was (during the time of the written, itemized declaration forms) when an inspector said something to me like, "Did you buy that tie in France?" and I replied, "On the last trip."
I am not registering my 30 year old Swiss watch.
This is true.
I have had occasion in the past to have as much as three trips to Paris in one month. The worst thing that ever happened was (during the time of the written, itemized declaration forms) when an inspector said something to me like, "Did you buy that tie in France?" and I replied, "On the last trip."
I am not registering my 30 year old Swiss watch.
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This is one of the few areas in which I've found CBP to be uniformly nice about things. It isn't a hassle and they just figure out what the duty is and whether they want to charge it or not (as others have said, there is some discretion here). The duty is often surprisingly little.
That is not even close to true. You don't even need to register it, though it may be wise to do so if you expect to have customs ask you questions about it.
That is not even close to true. You don't even need to register it, though it may be wise to do so if you expect to have customs ask you questions about it.
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Maybe not.
This is true.
Let's quantify things. If I bring in a Nikon D3 camera, Customs knows it's an old model whether or not I have a receipt with me. And it probably also has signs of wear as well. Want to make me pay duty, go ahead. Then wait for my appeal to be filed to have it returned.
I have had occasion in the past to have as much as three trips to Paris in one month. The worst thing that ever happened was (during the time of the written, itemized declaration forms) when an inspector said something to me like, "Did you buy that tie in France?" and I replied, "On the last trip."
I am not registering my 30 year old Swiss watch.
This is true.
Let's quantify things. If I bring in a Nikon D3 camera, Customs knows it's an old model whether or not I have a receipt with me. And it probably also has signs of wear as well. Want to make me pay duty, go ahead. Then wait for my appeal to be filed to have it returned.
I have had occasion in the past to have as much as three trips to Paris in one month. The worst thing that ever happened was (during the time of the written, itemized declaration forms) when an inspector said something to me like, "Did you buy that tie in France?" and I replied, "On the last trip."
I am not registering my 30 year old Swiss watch.
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In a related situation: some years ago my dad went to Hong Kong and brought back three fake Rolex watches as gag gifts (with the exchange rate I think he said he paid about $20 total). Until he convinced them the watches were fake (pretty easy to do) Customs wanted him to pay duty on their value as if they were authentic. I am not sure how he convinced them not to confiscate them (one is allowed to bring in limited quantities of counterfeit goods but three is more than one and obviously not for personal use). Somewhere I have a photo of my brother, Dad and me all checking the time on our new watches....
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https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...QmxSU0VDb28%3D
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A few years ago, Mrs. B returned with a couple of LV bags that were purchased in Paris. The total value was several hundred dollars above the exemption limit. The items were verbally declared after checking the box on the GE screen. The customs guy just waved us through.
Now that the customs lane is gone at SFO (you just walk right out after baggage claim), the customs agents near the exit appear to simply flag people who - in their view - look suspicious. We got flagged on our last trip - I think because I had my daughter's pink carryon and had sent her ahead to Starbucks. He let me exit after a few questions.
The point is that payment duty is 100% up to the customs officer you get. Best practice is to declare everything and see where the dice land. And most importantly, make darn sure you trash all fruits before you leave the plane.
Now that the customs lane is gone at SFO (you just walk right out after baggage claim), the customs agents near the exit appear to simply flag people who - in their view - look suspicious. We got flagged on our last trip - I think because I had my daughter's pink carryon and had sent her ahead to Starbucks. He let me exit after a few questions.
The point is that payment duty is 100% up to the customs officer you get. Best practice is to declare everything and see where the dice land. And most importantly, make darn sure you trash all fruits before you leave the plane.