Passport question [dual US/Dutch citizen flying one way US -> Netherlands]
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Passport question [dual US/Dutch citizen flying one way US -> Netherlands]
Hi all, quick question...moving to the Netherlands on Sunday and I have both a US and Dutch passport. Historically, partially due to advice here, I would always use my US passport for any international trip departing from the US and use my Dutch passport if I was traveling within Europe. For this one, since we are on a one way flight from the US to the Netherlands, what’s the best approach? Use the US passport departing the US and use my Dutch passport upon arrival in Amsterdam? I’m just trying to prevent messing something up upon the next time I enter the US. Thanks!
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Hi all, quick question...moving to the Netherlands on Sunday and I have both a US and Dutch passport. Historically, partially due to advice here, I would always use my US passport for any international trip departing from the US and use my Dutch passport if I was traveling within Europe. For this one, since we are on a one way flight from the US to the Netherlands, what’s the best approach? Use the US passport departing the US and use my Dutch passport upon arrival in Amsterdam? I’m just trying to prevent messing something up upon the next time I enter the US. Thanks!
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One thing I can think of is having one way ticket to Netherland and departing the U.S. using the U.S. passport, TIMTIC data base AA has may indicate you need ongoing or return ticket from Netherland.
Departing the U.S. using Dutch passport with one way ticket to Netherland, you should not have that problem.
Departing the U.S. using Dutch passport with one way ticket to Netherland, you should not have that problem.
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I think it should work fine to check in on your US passport and then hand over your Dutch passport to the immigration authorities when you land. Having said that, AlwaysAisle is correct that AA may not let you check in this way on your US passport. In theory AA should be able to take note of your Dutch passport to allow you to check in while still keeping your US passport on record, but about 80% of the time in this scenario the AAgent doesn't know how and just replaces the US passport data with the other.
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One thing I can think of is having one way ticket to Netherland and departing the U.S. using the U.S. passport, TIMTIC data base AA has may indicate you need ongoing or return ticket from Netherland.
Departing the U.S. using Dutch passport with one way ticket to Netherland, you should not have that problem.
Departing the U.S. using Dutch passport with one way ticket to Netherland, you should not have that problem.
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If you travel TO the country, you should use the document of that country, for that journey.
Going to the Netherlands, use the Dutch passport the whole time - going to the U.S., use the U.S. passport.
If using the U.S. document to Europe, the agents might inquire about your intended period of stay.
Going to the Netherlands, use the Dutch passport the whole time - going to the U.S., use the U.S. passport.
If using the U.S. document to Europe, the agents might inquire about your intended period of stay.
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Fly each routing on a single passport. I have dual soon to be triple citizenship and got myself into trouble in Australia. Entered on my U.K. passport and left on my Canadian. Immigration couldn’t find me in the system, not a big deal but delayed me checking into my flight by about 15 min while they sorted things out
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Because the US requires that you enter and leave on your US passport if you have one. (Although...metaphysical question: what does it mean "to leave the US" since there's no exit immigration controls? But I always check in for ex-US flights with my US passport based on this requirement.)
I think it should work fine to check in on your US passport and then hand over your Dutch passport to the immigration authorities when you land. Having said that, AlwaysAisle is correct that AA may not let you check in this way on your US passport. In theory AA should be able to take note of your Dutch passport to allow you to check in while still keeping your US passport on record, but about 80% of the time in this scenario the AAgent doesn't know how and just replaces the US passport data with the other.
I think it should work fine to check in on your US passport and then hand over your Dutch passport to the immigration authorities when you land. Having said that, AlwaysAisle is correct that AA may not let you check in this way on your US passport. In theory AA should be able to take note of your Dutch passport to allow you to check in while still keeping your US passport on record, but about 80% of the time in this scenario the AAgent doesn't know how and just replaces the US passport data with the other.
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My wife is a dual American-Irish citizen. Our strategy for flights to and from the EU is:
On flights from US -> EU: check in for the flight on the US side with her US passport; use Irish passport to clear immigration on the EU side
On flights from EU -> US: check in for the flight on the EU side with her US passport; use Irish passport to clear exit immigration on the EU side; use US passport to clear immigration on the US side
It's possible TIMATIC will barf up something about no return ticket if you check in with your US passport. If that happens, just check in with your Dutch passport.
On flights from US -> EU: check in for the flight on the US side with her US passport; use Irish passport to clear immigration on the EU side
On flights from EU -> US: check in for the flight on the EU side with her US passport; use Irish passport to clear exit immigration on the EU side; use US passport to clear immigration on the US side
It's possible TIMATIC will barf up something about no return ticket if you check in with your US passport. If that happens, just check in with your Dutch passport.
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My wife is a dual American-Irish citizen. Our strategy for flights to and from the EU is:
On flights from US -> EU: check in for the flight on the US side with her US passport; use Irish passport to clear immigration on the EU side
On flights from EU -> US: check in for the flight on the EU side with her US passport; use Irish passport to clear exit immigration on the EU side; use US passport to clear immigration on the US side
It's possible TIMATIC will barf up something about no return ticket if you check in with your US passport. If that happens, just check in with your Dutch passport.
On flights from US -> EU: check in for the flight on the US side with her US passport; use Irish passport to clear immigration on the EU side
On flights from EU -> US: check in for the flight on the EU side with her US passport; use Irish passport to clear exit immigration on the EU side; use US passport to clear immigration on the US side
It's possible TIMATIC will barf up something about no return ticket if you check in with your US passport. If that happens, just check in with your Dutch passport.
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Always best to check the specific journey. In this case, there is no reason to worry about using either.
1. The US does not have an exit immigration / passport control barrier. Air carriers check documents solely to assure that the passenger has the documents necessary for arrival because the carriers are subject to large fines and returning the undocumented passenger if they louse up.
2. A check of TIMATIC reflects that with a one-way ticket US-Netherlands on a US passport, there is no validity requirement. On a Dutch passport it goes without saying that there is no such requirement.
Thus, OP's son can "travel on" (whatever that means) either passport on departure and should use his Dutch document on arrival.
Nominal requirements of USN's traveling on US passports have not been enforced for 30+ years.
1. The US does not have an exit immigration / passport control barrier. Air carriers check documents solely to assure that the passenger has the documents necessary for arrival because the carriers are subject to large fines and returning the undocumented passenger if they louse up.
2. A check of TIMATIC reflects that with a one-way ticket US-Netherlands on a US passport, there is no validity requirement. On a Dutch passport it goes without saying that there is no such requirement.
Thus, OP's son can "travel on" (whatever that means) either passport on departure and should use his Dutch document on arrival.
Nominal requirements of USN's traveling on US passports have not been enforced for 30+ years.
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The rule is: always show the passport of the country you are flying to. This is especially important when flying to the US. Then you always need to present your US passport when leaving the other country since the airline will need to know that you have permission to enter the US.
But when flying from the US you don't need to show that you have US citizenship. You can, and if it bothers you, then by all means show your US passport when leaving the US, but there is no actual necessity to do this. At present, the US records documentation of everyone entering the country. It does not record documentation of those who leave, so when you show a passport on leaving the US all you are doing is proving to the airline that you can travel internationally on some form of passport, not telling the US government that you are out of the country. (The only people who want to know that are the IRS if it's for any length of time.) That's why, when you enter the US, if you see an agent they will ask you how long you have been away since they do not have that information. In your case, since you are moving to the Netherlands, the least problematic thing to do when visiting the US is to tell them how long you have been away and say that you have a temporary posting overseas.
The only exception to the above would be if you were flying from the US to a country where US or Dutch citizens required a visa to enter that country.
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