REAL ID - how will travelers from non-compliant states w/o passports be affected?
Oct 9, 2017, 10:30 am
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Oct 9, 2017, 11:49 am
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Please cite a credible source for your claim that the TSA procedure for verifying the identity of passengers traveling without valid identification is being discontinued.
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Oct 9, 2017, 12:29 pm
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At https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs under 'What happens to travelers who show up without a compliant licence?' it says "Starting January 22, 2018, travelers who do not have a license from a compliant state or a state that has been granted an extension (a complete list of non-compliant states/ territories can be found here) will be asked to provide alternate acceptable identification. If the traveler cannot provide an acceptable form of identification, they will not be permitted through the security checkpoint.
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https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...identification
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In the event you arrive at the airport without valid identification, because it is lost or at home, you may still be allowed to fly. The TSA officer may ask you to complete an identity verification process which includes collecting information such as your name, current address, and other personal information to confirm your identity. If your identity is confirmed, you will be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint. You may be subject to additional screening, to include a patdown and screening of carry-on property.
You will not be allowed to enter the security checkpoint if your identity cannot be confirmed, you chose to not provide proper identification or you decline to cooperate with the identity verification process.
TSA recommends that you arrive at least two hours in advance of your flight time.
In the event you arrive at the airport without valid identification, because it is lost or at home, you may still be allowed to fly. The TSA officer may ask you to complete an identity verification process which includes collecting information such as your name, current address, and other personal information to confirm your identity. If your identity is confirmed, you will be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint. You may be subject to additional screening, to include a patdown and screening of carry-on property.
You will not be allowed to enter the security checkpoint if your identity cannot be confirmed, you chose to not provide proper identification or you decline to cooperate with the identity verification process.
TSA recommends that you arrive at least two hours in advance of your flight time.
Oct 9, 2017, 4:47 pm
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At https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs under 'What happens to travelers who show up without a compliant licence?' it says "Starting January 22, 2018, travelers who do not have a license from a compliant state or a state that has been granted an extension (a complete list of non-compliant states/ territories can be found here) will be asked to provide alternate acceptable identification. If the traveler cannot provide an acceptable form of identification, they will not be permitted through the security checkpoint."
Reading a couple of bullet points down, it states as follows:
Starting October 1, 2020, every air traveler will need a REAL ID-compliant license, or another acceptable form of identification, for domestic air travel.
Oct 10, 2017, 8:25 am
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Okay, so I am still confused. I have a 2 year old Missouri DL. Right now the state isn't compliant. Let's say that tomorrow, the MO legislature decides to get off its lazy arses and make our IDs compliant. That would only affect any new IDs going forward. Mine was created before we were compliant, mine still isn't compliant, and come January 22, 2018, I need to start using an alternate form of ID at check points, until I renew my DL. Right?
Or if our state is brought into compliance, does something magically happen to all existing MO DLs to make them compliant too?
I just want to see a chart that says "If you have an ID from State X, issued before date Y, on date Z bring alternate forms of IDs to the airport". That would simplify things so much.
Or if our state is brought into compliance, does something magically happen to all existing MO DLs to make them compliant too?
I just want to see a chart that says "If you have an ID from State X, issued before date Y, on date Z bring alternate forms of IDs to the airport". That would simplify things so much.
Oct 10, 2017, 4:22 pm
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Okay, so I am still confused. I have a 2 year old Missouri DL. Right now the state isn't compliant. Let's say that tomorrow, the MO legislature decides to get off its lazy arses and make our IDs compliant. That would only affect any new IDs going forward. Mine was created before we were compliant, mine still isn't compliant, and come January 22, 2018, I need to start using an alternate form of ID at check points, until I renew my DL. Right?
Or if our state is brought into compliance, does something magically happen to all existing MO DLs to make them compliant too?
I just want to see a chart that says "If you have an ID from State X, issued before date Y, on date Z bring alternate forms of IDs to the airport". That would simplify things so much.
Or if our state is brought into compliance, does something magically happen to all existing MO DLs to make them compliant too?
I just want to see a chart that says "If you have an ID from State X, issued before date Y, on date Z bring alternate forms of IDs to the airport". That would simplify things so much.
Oct 17, 2017, 12:17 pm
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Oct 17, 2017, 5:19 pm
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It's not only about the ID, it's also about the information associated with the ID, what documentation you have to provide to get one, and what the States have to store and share.
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Oct 17, 2017, 5:30 pm
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Please keep in mind that the Practical Travel Safety and Security Issues forum is informational. It is the place to ask questions and get information to help you travel safely and with minimal hassle.
Please limit your contributions here to factual information.
Opinion, commentary and speculation about REAL ID and the TSA name verification and screening procedures belong in the Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate forum.
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Opinion, commentary and speculation about REAL ID and the TSA name verification and screening procedures belong in the Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate forum.
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Dec 7, 2017, 12:40 pm
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OK, that's what I've been confused about. I have an NC non-REAL ID driver's license that doesn't expire until 2025. But since NC is compliant I should be able to use it until at least 2020, if I understand correctly.
Dec 7, 2017, 3:07 pm
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I use my global entry card ... but will get a passport card when I next renew.
See this thread for more: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28896948-post15.html
See this thread for more: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28896948-post15.html