CBP warned me about having video on my laptop that I converted from my own Blu-ray/LD
so... another boring uneventful 14-hour flight... as usual, the only thing in my hand was my laptop(no bag) and my phone(in my pocket). I never carry anything else when I fly... no carry-on, no backpack, no checked bags, because my company pays for FedEx shipping on stuff like that, so I always ship anything I need to my destination a few days before... then thrown them back in the back and let FedEx pick them up from the hotel for shipment back home.
Anyway... the CBP guy was as friendly as can be and commented that I had raccoon eyes. :) I said it was because I spent most of the 14-hour nonstop watching movies on my laptop. That's when his smile did a 180 and turned into a bad cop fact. He asked me if those were movies were downloaded from the internet? I said not. All of them were converted from my own Blu-ray discs and LaserDiscs(yes, some old movies on LaserDiscs still never made it to DVD or Blu-ray as of today). He said that's still illegal, even if I own the physical discs. I didn't argue, of course. He said to consider it a warrning and the next time they may have to inspect my laptop and see if there are any movies converted without the copyright holder's permission. Was he being serious? Do I not have the right to convert my purchased Blu-ray discs and old LaserDiscs and watch/carry them on my own laptop? |
Basically, no, you can't as it requires circumventing the copy protection on the disks, which is not legal. It's a violation of the DMCA.
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Originally Posted by WalterSFO
(Post 28575803)
so... another boring uneventful 14-hour flight... as usual, the only thing in my hand was my laptop(no bag) and my phone(in my pocket). I never carry anything else when I fly... no carry-on, no backpack, no checked bags, because my company pays for FedEx shipping on stuff like that, so I always ship anything I need to my destination a few days before... then thrown them back in the back and let FedEx pick them up from the hotel for shipment back home.
Anyway... the CBP guy was as friendly as can be and commented that I had raccoon eyes. :) I said it was because I spent most of the 14-hour nonstop watching movies on my laptop. That's when his smile did a 180 and turned into a bad cop fact. He asked me if those were movies were downloaded from the internet? I said not. All of them were converted from my own Blu-ray discs and LaserDiscs(yes, some old movies on LaserDiscs still never made it to DVD or Blu-ray as of today). He said that's still illegal, even if I own the physical discs. I didn't argue, of course. He said to consider it a warrning and the next time they may have to inspect my laptop and see if there are any movies converted without the copyright holder's permission. Was he being serious? Do I not have the right to convert my purchased Blu-ray discs and old LaserDiscs and watch/carry them on my own laptop? <deleted> |
Originally Posted by swiftaw
(Post 28575822)
Basically, no, you can't as it requires circumventing the copy protection on the disks, which is not legal. It's a violation of the DMCA.
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Originally Posted by rickg523
(Post 28575830)
Another example of why lawyers always say to volunteer no information in discussions with law enforcement. They're not interested in civil conversation, and you shouldn't be fooled into thinking they are.
<deleted> OP was being processed by a CBP Officer at a point of entry. CBP most certainly does have copyright enforcement authority (dating back to the portions of its authority which derive from Customs) and absolutely is trained. The Officer was almost certainly correct, but as you can see, took no action and simply warned OP. The better takeaway is that the entire "racoon eyes" conversation was likely meant to keep OP talking. The better practice is to smile and be pleasant but volunteer nothing. Another Officer on another day and that laptop could be history. |
As #2 said, it's not the format shifting that's the problem. Format shifting is not illegal (in the USA) as long as you don't distribute the copies. It's the DVD/BD access control circumvention that's the illegal part, due to DMCA restrictions.
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Originally Posted by RandomNobody
(Post 28575882)
As #2 said, it's not the format shifting that's the problem. Format shifting is not illegal (in the USA) as long as you don't distribute the copies. It's the DVD/BD access control circumvention that's the illegal part, due to DMCA restrictions.
so... it's not against the law if I transfer my LaserDisc movies to my computer, since there's no copyright protection on them in the first palce? :confused: |
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Next time if asked that tell them you buy the BluRay combo packs that contain a digital copy which is what I normally do because I'm too lazy to rip and convert myself unless the combo pack is way over priced. That should make them happy.
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Yes, no, yes, yes, business, no, yes, 8 days, no, no, no. (STAMP). Thank you.
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Originally Posted by 97gst
(Post 28578143)
Yes, no, yes, yes, business, no, yes, 8 days, no, no, no. (STAMP). Thank you.
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The main reason I have GE. To avoid talking.
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Originally Posted by LtKernelPanic
(Post 28577561)
Next time if asked that tell them you buy the BluRay combo packs that contain a digital copy which is what I normally do because I'm too lazy to rip and convert myself unless the combo pack is way over priced. That should make them happy.
In any case the OP might want to consider resting his eyes as well. Not only for health reasons but it sounds like CBP noticed and it's what started this whole conversation. |
Originally Posted by TiberiusOnTime
(Post 28631053)
Or that you bought the digital movies on amazon. Because its digital doesn't mean it was downloaded or ripped illegally. That comment might have stopped the officer from making the uninformed slanted question in the future.
In any case the OP might want to consider resting his eyes as well. Not only for health reasons but it sounds like CBP noticed and it's what started this whole conversation. |
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