Damaged Passport

Old Jan 1, 19, 7:35 am
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My passport was detached from cover. Lufthansa staff denied boarding
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Old Jan 1, 19, 4:22 pm
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"Damaged" is a subjective thing, here's proof:
Recently I had to renew my admittedly weathered passport as it is approaching 10 years.
Went to same day passport renewal in NYC at 7:30 AM.
You need a DS82 form filled out typically but DS 11 if damaged. Had to leave the renewal office building and go to Starbucks to get wifi to email them
travel plans, which I had forgotten. When I came back, the one clerk asked me why in the world I had to fill out the DS-11 form.
I explained that the first clerk told me my passport had "water damage" whatever that is...the two started discussing the matter and didn't seem to agree.
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Old Jan 1, 19, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by yandosan View Post
"Damaged" is a subjective thing, here's proof:
Recently I had to renew my admittedly weathered passport as it is approaching 10 years.
Went to same day passport renewal in NYC at 7:30 AM.
You need a DS82 form filled out typically but DS 11 if damaged. Had to leave the renewal office building and go to Starbucks to get wifi to email them
travel plans, which I had forgotten. When I came back, the one clerk asked me why in the world I had to fill out the DS-11 form.
I explained that the first clerk told me my passport had "water damage" whatever that is...the two started discussing the matter and didn't seem to agree.
Indeed there is some element of subjective opinions about when DS-11 is required for “damage”.
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Old May 26, 19, 2:52 am
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Originally Posted by legspace View Post
Just like to share an experience I had a while ago. I have a German passport, the red one, with the laminated data page.

Data page I call that page with your picture, name and details. It did broke/fall out. The staff that did that (not at a border) didn't handle the passport badly. Just was just too much bending over the years.

This makes a passport basically invalid. A German passport takes about 6 weeks to get. Not wanting to get stuck during that time here is how I fixed it:
  • I bought some different types/brands of invisible document tape
  • I check them all under UV light, some glow bright blueish white, some not at all. The UV type is unsuitable
  • I taped only the backside of the data page, no tape on data side (would be easy to spot)
  • Data page was then rather loose (as in hinge less stiff) but typically only the data side is checked/looked at
I did manage to fill up the already pretty full passport and managed to use it till the new one was ready.
I lied a little bit, because not sure how much data they can get from here. This break out happen in April 2018, and in reality I just got a new passport only in May 2019. During that year with the tempered passport I had a few flights with different airlines, and a few border crossings (30+). Nobody ever looked at the taped side of the data page.

This said, I am of course fully away that this a great risk and I don't suggest you try that.
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Old Jan 12, 20, 3:28 pm
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Wear and tear or damaged passport?

Hi.

I'm moving to Singapore this week.
However my passport has slight damage to the corner of the cover after retrieving it from the Russian embassy for getting a visum (probably mishandled or something?). The colour off the passport came off in the corner.

Personally I'm sure this will be seen as normal wear and tear, but the wife is adamant on it being damaged and will end up with me getting denied boarding.

So, with the fear of making a proper fool out of myself I come to FT for advice from more seasoned flyers. Do I replace this (over 5 years left on it).

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Old Jan 12, 20, 4:00 pm
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I see that as a damaged passport and would not chance flying on it. The wording on the cover is close to illegible and there is clear damage to he lower right-hand corner.

There are any number of threads with similar facts on FT. Absent passports which are truly demolished, they all come down to the individual's risk tolerance. You are at the mercy of the particular air carrier staff checking your documents and then passport control on arrival.
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Old Jan 12, 20, 5:56 pm
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I'm no expert, but my passport has looked much worse than that for about 5 years and it's probably been to 20 countries in that state. I wouldn't think twice about it for Singapore, but as was mentioned, there is some risk.

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Old Jan 12, 20, 6:37 pm
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All of my passports have had the wording on the front over shade at one point. As long as no features in the passport (electronics or something wrong with the pages) are damaged I'd say you're fine.
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Old Jan 12, 20, 6:49 pm
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My passport has no wording on the front anymore, just a slight hint of some former gold lettering, basically just a plain blue book. Nobody cares. As long as it’s not expired you’re good to go.
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Old Jan 12, 20, 7:44 pm
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Keep the passport in a case or envelope from now on. Try to minimize wear during the next 5 years.
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Old Jan 13, 20, 3:41 am
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I have seen passports much worse than that. I doubt you'll have any issue.
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Old Jan 13, 20, 1:36 pm
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Moving to the Practical TSS forum for further discussion. /JY1024, TravelBuzz moderator
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Old Jan 13, 20, 6:02 pm
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Where it has been merged into the relevant thread.

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Old Jan 13, 20, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by InsomniaBA View Post
Hi.

I'm moving to Singapore this week.
However my passport has slight damage to the corner of the cover after retrieving it from the Russian embassy for getting a visum (probably mishandled or something?). The colour off the passport came off in the corner.
Looks like your passport was under the corner of a metal paper holding system of sorts with liquid and/or heat source nearby that has caused that kind of damage before when the passport was pulled out or being used to press in an issued visa. But at this point the cause of the damage from sloppy handling won’t really change a thing.

Singapore may not make a significant issue over that kind of damage which Indonesia may make into a travel show-stopper. While it may not be a big problem if denied entry to Batam with its short ferry from Singapore, I wouldn’t want to fly from SIN-DPS on such a passport with that kind of damage. SIN can be fussy at times too, but if you have SIN-issued travel docs of sort that are presented in conjunction with the passport, SIN is most probably going to let you in eventually and may suggest you visit the Embassy in Singapore to begin the process of getting a new Dutch passport.

The more likely problem will be the airline, if they exam the cover. I wouldn’t expect to use that passport for very long before encountering an airline rep who uses it as a reason to deny check-in and/or boarding. It’s not the fading of the gold print that would concern me. It would be the burgundy cover color removal in the corner that looks more obviously as damage than routine normal wear.

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