Security questions
The last time I flew back to the US from CDG, I was asked questions at check-in before getting my boarding passes by some security people. Do these people work for the airport or CBP or what?
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Originally Posted by poisson
(Post 25065976)
The last time I flew back to the US from CDG, I was asked questions at check-in before getting my boarding passes by some security people. Do these people work for the airport or CBP or what?
No. Those agents work for ICTS, a contract security company, on behalf of the airline, not a government agency or airport authority. Many U.S.-based airlines that operate flights from Europe contract with ICTS to conduct screening of passengers, typically to ask baggage security questions. (Note that these security procedures are separate from the normal security checkpoints with x-ray/metal detectors that usually are conducted by screeners working directly for, or sometimes on behalf of, the airport authority.) |
Good to know. Those are also the same people who put those stickers on my passport.
Maybe I need to start flying with non-US airlines when flying abroad. |
^ I always do that!
I hate having my passport being covered by those unnecessary stamps! Plus, Air France gives me (one?) free wine with my meal in economy :)! |
Many non-US carriers do this too, I'm afraid. But it is required by US law for US airlines flying from certain categories of airports on flights TO the United States. (The sticker isn't required; the questions are.)
My last trip out of Argentina had no sticker; it was a little piece of paper collected at boarding. But I suppose that passengers lose those. ICTS and its subsidiaries (I-SEC, FIS) seem to control the market. Although they have portable passport readers at the gate, it's quicker for them to fly through the questions and glance at your passport rather than wait for a machine to read the passport... hence the need for a sticker. |
I wonder if the security questions are designed to catch drug smugglers or terrorists.
The whole thing is nothing more than security theater. I'm assuming that the questions are useless. They are more interested in your reaction to the question. Could you refuse to answer their questions? It's not like they can refuse to send you back to the country you are a citizen of. |
Originally Posted by poisson
(Post 25068344)
I wonder if the security questions are designed to catch drug smugglers or terrorists.
The whole thing is nothing more than security theater. I'm assuming that the questions are useless. They are more interested in your reaction to the question. Could you refuse to answer their questions? It's not like they can refuse to send you back to the country you are a citizen of. |
As said, in this day and age the questions asked are security theatre. As for the stickers, they come off my passport once I get home. Just go through the motions ...
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poisson,
Drug smugglers, not so much. But the initial questions and document check are designed to identify those who may be refused entry into the United States. The airlines face large fines and logistical challenges with those situations. So the interview and document check verify that a passenger has appropriate visas, etc., isn't on a "no fly" list, and then the questions are in the interest of security. I find the questions to be useless but generally unobtrusive. It's just so silly to go through it twice, but this practice long predates September 11. They used to make a bigger fuss of appearing to work for the airline. They would say, "I work for American Airlines Security" and would wear the uniforms of the U.S. carrier. Now they tend to wear the uniforms if their real employers and don't pretend to be airline employees. But perhaps it's the old style in Athens. It would make more sense to pool resources and have all of the U.S. carriers use the same contractor, but then money gets involved. And they would lose their branding. The podiums are "branded" with airline logos and sometimes their premium cabin brand names. |
I haven't been through customs in about 5 years, but I remember the passport control in CDG being a piece of cake. I think the agent took one glance at my passport and let me go.
Coming back to the US was a lot worse. I can't remember if I was asked any questions. Do the CBP agents commonly ask questions to US citizens? One thing I do hate is having to collect my bag, recheck it, and go back through security. I guess security in non-US airports isn't good enough for CBP/TSA standards. |
Originally Posted by Mats
(Post 25070734)
I find the questions to be useless but generally unobtrusive. It's just so silly to go through it twice, but this practice long predates September 11.
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Originally Posted by poisson
(Post 25070779)
I haven't been through customs in about 5 years, but I remember the passport control in CDG being a piece of cake. I think the agent took one glance at my passport and let me go.
Coming back to the US was a lot worse. I can't remember if I was asked any questions. Do the CBP agents commonly ask questions to US citizens? One thing I do hate is having to collect my bag, recheck it, and go back through security. I guess security in non-US airports isn't good enough for CBP/TSA standards. |
Originally Posted by poisson
(Post 25068344)
Could you refuse to answer their questions? It's not like they can refuse to send you back to the country you are a citizen of.
As echoed by others here just answer there pointless questions and move on. You are just an extra in their security theater show. |
Originally Posted by poisson
(Post 25068344)
Could you refuse to answer their questions? It's not like they can refuse to send you back to the country you are a citizen of. |
Originally Posted by poisson
(Post 25070779)
One thing I do hate is having to collect my bag, recheck it, and go back through security. I guess security in non-US airports isn't good enough for CBP/TSA standards.
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