Russia to require API for all overflights

Reply

Old Feb 21, 15, 12:24 pm
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 5,266
Russia to require API for all overflights

I did not see this posted on FT but I came across the news that from 01MAR Russia will require API of all pax overflying their territory.

So routes like BKK, SIN, PVG, PEK, HKG, NRT (from certain airports) will be affected.

Interesting to know the Russian government will have this data.
hugolover is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 22, 15, 12:35 pm
  #2  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Between DCA and IAD
Programs: UA 1K MM; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 49,441
Doesn't the US already do the same? And the airlines have all this data available commercially for a fee as it is. I don't see it as being a change from the effective status quo.
exerda is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 22, 15, 2:53 pm
  #3  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 86,461
Originally Posted by exerda View Post
Doesn't the US already do the same? And the airlines have all this data available commercially for a fee as it is. I don't see it as being a change from the effective status quo.
The US does have an APIS filing requirement for overflights that transit US airspace. Most countries in the world don't have such a thing.

Most countries don't even have a national PNR filing requirment in advance of flight.

There isn't (yet) even an EU-wide PNR/APIS requirement; and some EU countries don't even have such a thing at all on the national level. Privacy rights and laws in the EU countries are being scrapped, sidelined or otherwise creatively made irrelevant (if different) in order to enable national APIS/PNR databases or multinational APIS/PNR databases; this is done because their waivers for surrendering data to the USG don't allow for lawful retention and use of every passengers' PNR info for all flights within or to/from the EU. This is on course to change this year, based on the exploitation of the terrorist attacks in Paris and in Copenhagen this season. Then more airlines will be able to give all this info to way more countries.

For most international airlines that service North America and the EU, providing the info to more countries is a walk in the park if laws don't get in the way.

Countries can use this data to blacklist people from flying over or to/from a country; to figure out who to seize/search/manipulate; to have more dossiers on more people; to have more data to more effectively spy on more people.

The Russians have played an interesting card here against the EU in particular -- just by copying from the US playbook in this regard. It changes things.

[My writing today is a lot more sloppy than usual, but I don't have time today to write on this topic in the very specific way needed to more accurately and precisely cover this topic to the full extent it deserves given what all is involved when APIS is part of the picture. My apologies for that.]

Last edited by GUWonder; Feb 22, 15 at 3:13 pm
GUWonder is offline  
Reply With Quote

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: