entering USA with the criminal record of having
I am a canadian passport holder and resident. In 2012 i had the following convictions
1. Uttering threats 2. Possession of a controlled substance (weed, personal amount) 3. Driving under the influence of a controlled substance (the weed) Will i be able to enter USA with this? I have been able to enter Singapore, malaysia, indonesia, switzerland, germany, france, england with these convictions. I would be crossing a land border likely niagara falls. I am looking for a more firm answer than "it depends on the agent you get" I am not looking for conversation on the conditions surrounding the charges Thank you |
Originally Posted by YKF
(Post 23689810)
I am a canadian passport holder and resident. In 2012 i had the following convictions
1. Uttering threats 2. Possession of a controlled substance (weed, personal amount) 3. Driving under the influence of a controlled substance (the weed) Will i be able to enter USA with this? I have been able to enter Singapore, malaysia, indonesia, switzerland, germany, france, england with these convictions. I would be crossing a land border likely niagara falls. I am looking for a more firm answer than "it depends on the agent you get" I am not looking for conversation on the conditions surrounding the charges Thank you You can apply for advanced waiver of inadmissibility (I-192). It's US$585 regardless of the decision. http://www.cbp.gov/travel/internatio...dmission-forms |
Originally Posted by dustman81
(Post 23689858)
The possession of a controlled substance and that you have multiple convictions may prevent you from entering.
You can apply for advanced waiver of inadmissibility (I-192). It's US$585 regardless of the decision. http://www.cbp.gov/travel/internatio...dmission-forms Thanks for the response. Anyone else? |
Originally Posted by YKF
(Post 23689901)
What a money grab. Ridiculous that i have to pay to find out if i can enter a country or not. Why cant the law be clearly presented with a yes or no answer
Thanks for the response. Anyone else? Read this page first http://canada.usembassy.gov/visas/vi...igibility.html and then contact the embassy/consulate for an answer. |
I seriously doubt that you would get the waiver and be able to enter. There are certain convictions that are not allowed no matter what and you have them. I know this because of my ex husband having similar convictions. They are called crimes of moral turpitude and uttering death threats and being in possession of a controlled substance, including marijuana, count.
It is also clearly listed here http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86941.pdf Here's more http://canadianlegal.org/united-states-waiver/ Controlled substances in any amount are a reason to be denied entry into the US, especially if it occurred less than 5 years ago. Uttering death threats is also listed. If you only have one offence and it was a few years ago, you would likely be ok to get the waiver. However, having more than one offence, whether it falls into crimes of moral turpitude or not, makes it almost impossible to get the waiver with the US hypervigilance. However, you could try. I have a friend that went to the US for rehab years ago and made the error of disclosing to the border guard that she was entering to go to back to rehab on her way back after a weekend visit to family in Canada. She was flagged in the system, despite never having any arrests or convictions of anytime and willingly seeking help for her addiction. When she tried to return to the US, she was not allowed, despite her parents owning a home in Florida where they go every winter for 4 months. Last year, after 3 years of not being able to enter, her parents hired an attorney and they applied for a waiver. She had to provide a letter from her doctor, character references, blood tests and urine tests to prove she was not using any substances. She was allowed to enter but she jumped through a lot of hoops to do so. I wouldn't even bother personally. |
Originally Posted by YKF
(Post 23689901)
Why cant the law be clearly presented with a yes or no answer
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Originally Posted by YKF
(Post 23691327)
God forbid i enter the utopia and corrupt it.
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There are people in their 50's and 60's being denied for a truthful answer to the question "Have you ever consumed an illegal drug at anytime?" with an answer like "I smoked marijuana in the 60's one time".
Having a drug conviction will definitely keep you from admission to the USA. The reason the other countries that you have not been denied entry to do not have easy access to Canadian criminal records that are held in the CPIC database in Canada. They would have to request an Interpol query, which is time consuming and would take the entry process from seconds or minutes, to several hours for the criminal record check to come back. Strike USA off your travel list. You will have better odds winning the lotto max than getting admission to the USA. They have enough criminals of their own, they don't like foreign ones trying to enter.... |
Originally Posted by fritzzz25
(Post 23695754)
There are people in their 50's and 60's being denied for a truthful answer to the question "Have you ever consumed an illegal drug at anytime?" with an answer like "I smoked marijuana in the 60's one time".
Having a drug conviction will definitely keep you from admission to the USA. The reason the other countries that you have not been denied entry to do not have easy access to Canadian criminal records that are held in the CPIC database in Canada. They would have to request an Interpol query, which is time consuming and would take the entry process from seconds or minutes, to several hours for the criminal record check to come back. Strike USA off your travel list. You will have better odds winning the lotto max than getting admission to the USA. They have enough criminals of their own, they don't like foreign ones trying to enter.... It is not just the drug conviction, the links I provided clearly list driving intoxicated and uttering death threats. Any ONE of those are considered crimes of moral turpitude and having all 3 is 3 strikes, you are out. The uttering death threats is actually considered more serious than the other 2. I don't even see the point of discussing this and I shouldn't have answered. If the OP would read the clear rules and links provided, he'd know he is not admissible, even with a waiver because his crimes are listed as ones that the waiver is moot for. However, like many others, he is welcome to try. I'd love to know the results. |
Originally Posted by westcoastgal
(Post 23696094)
It is not just the drug conviction, the links I provided clearly list driving intoxicated and uttering death threats. Any ONE of those are considered crimes of moral turpitude and having all 3 is 3 strikes, you are out. The uttering death threats is actually considered more serious than the other 2. I don't even see the point of discussing this and I shouldn't have answered. If the OP would read the clear rules and links provided, he'd know he is not admissible, even with a waiver because his crimes are listed as ones that the waiver is moot for. However, like many others, he is welcome to try. I'd love to know the results.
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Originally Posted by YKF
(Post 23697598)
Sorry who said it was death threats
You mean you don't even know what your were found guilty of? |
No one here really does know if you'll be denied entry. It's a crap shoot. There are a lot of threads about this, and whether it's a US citizen entering Canada or a Canadian entering the US, getting denied does appear to be fairly random. Since it sounds like you're driving down from Toronto, the worst case scenario is that you're denied entry. You'll just turn around and drive back home. It's not a deportation or anything, you'll just be denied entry.
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Originally Posted by fritzzz25
(Post 23695754)
There are people in their 50's and 60's being denied for a truthful answer to the question "Have you ever consumed an illegal drug at anytime?" with an answer like "I smoked marijuana in the 60's one time".
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Originally Posted by mkt
(Post 23691714)
Your country would deny entry to a US citizen with your same record.
A waiver in this case would be very unlikely as the convictions were quite recent. Furthermore, it will be impossible if the convicted person is still under sentence including a prohibition order. Quite often in Canada a threats conviction also attracts a lengthy firearm/weapons prohibition. |
I guess when you are entering a country as a guest, they get to determine who comes in and who doesn't. I didn't make the rules, nor do I live there or enforce them. Just stating what HAS happened to people on their attempt to gain entry to the USA.
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