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saizai Jul 22, 2014 10:18 am
Originally Posted by FWAAA (Post 23152913)
Exactly. No way will terrorists ever be capable of making something "go boom" while still functioning as a smart phone, tablet or laptop. Idiots.
Obligatory:
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/bag_check.png

See also official TSA response to it.

TravellingSalesman Jul 23, 2014 2:48 pm
Originally Posted by saizai (Post 23237436)
:D ^

ScottTexas Jul 29, 2014 3:42 am
Hello! I am traveling in Europe and my iPhone was failing at various times on the trip. Now, it literally will not power up at all. So, even if I try to charge it, nothing happens.

I depart Europe in one week. What should I do with the phone, which is under a warranty? Should I risk checking it in my checked luggage? It definitely will not turn on, so if I am checked, I am sure they will confiscate it.

I am flying from Vienna to Zurich to Philadelphia.

Thanks for any advice.

saizai Jul 29, 2014 6:00 am
Does anyone here happen to know someone on a SWAT or military bomb detection/disposal team? I would be curious to know how/whether they are able to tell the difference between a dead electronic device and one that's been gutted and stuffed with explosives.

It seems to me that turning the device on (i.e. having its screen display some startup stuff) does nearly nothing to prove it either way.

ScottTexas Jul 29, 2014 6:01 am
Don't let facts get in the way of TSA's actions, Saizai! ;)

scnzzz Jul 29, 2014 8:55 am
Originally Posted by ScottTexas (Post 23274499)
Hello! I am traveling in Europe and my iPhone was failing at various times on the trip. Now, it literally will not power up at all. So, even if I try to charge it, nothing happens.

I depart Europe in one week. What should I do with the phone, which is under a warranty? Should I risk checking it in my checked luggage? It definitely will not turn on, so if I am checked, I am sure they will confiscate it.

I am flying from Vienna to Zurich to Philadelphia.

Thanks for any advice.
I'd check it. From what you say it may be on its last legs anyway, so if it goes missing it wouldn't be as bad as losing a properly working device. I suppose it depends on how robust the warranty actually is.

Spiff Jul 29, 2014 9:01 am
Originally Posted by scnzzz (Post 23275761)
I'd check it. From what you say it may be on its last legs anyway, so if it goes missing it wouldn't be as bad as losing a properly working device. I suppose it depends on how robust the warranty actually is.
I wouldn't check any electronics as the airlines have zero liability for theft of electronics by sticky-fingered TSA employees or airline employees from checked bags.

If there's a chance it will not power up even plugged in, mail it home via FedEx or similar reliable carrier.

saizai Jul 30, 2014 6:29 am
Originally Posted by ScottTexas (Post 23274898)
Don't let facts get in the way of TSA's actions, Saizai! ;)
Yeah, screw US v Davis. What did those judges know anyway, right? :p

GUWonder Jul 30, 2014 7:23 am
Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 23275794)
I wouldn't check any electronics as the airlines have zero liability for theft of electronics by sticky-fingered TSA employees or airline employees from checked bags.

If there's a chance it will not power up even plugged in, mail it home via FedEx or similar reliable carrier.
Airlines flying passengers on travel covered under a relevant Montreal Convention applicable to checked luggage are liable for loss/theft/damage even for electronics in the checked luggage regardless of what the airline claims in its contracts of carriage or elsewhere. The US DOT has even advised US airlines to their being liable for even electronics in checked luggage on international itineraries covered under the Montreal Conventions, as would be applicable for the Europe to US travel mentioned in this thread.

That said, it's not a good idea to place valuable information/electronics in checked luggage.


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