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Karen2 Jan 16, 2012 7:31 pm

Plane security breached by thief overnight
 
Yesterday at MIA, our plane (flight 465 to ORD) was broken into during the night and the alcohol stolen. After a Dade County sheriff came on board to look it over, the gate agent glossed over the situation saying the on board staff thought maybe the cleaners took the drink bottles. However, quite a few passengers were very concerned about the possibility that someone entering the plane to steal could also bring something like a bomb on board also. I would say over 20 passengers bailed. Some came back when they learned that they would have a 2 1/2 day wait for another flight. Cruise passengers.

We saw no evidence that anyone was searching for unwanted items in the cabin. Between this and 2 mechanical issues, we thought UA should have flown in another plane for us. However, they spent 4 hours on repairs, etc and we departed and landed with no incident. Thank God.

edcho Jan 16, 2012 7:43 pm

Did they atleast bring bomb sniffing dogs to search the plane?!?

Karen2 Jan 16, 2012 7:59 pm

Deputy walked on. Spent 5 to 10 min. No dog. Left. FA's told passengers what it was about. I was still outside thinking I was a volunteer and the gate agent told us. So much drama. I have no idea how they determined who dunnit nor am I consoled by its possibly being done by cleaners.

chollie Jan 16, 2012 8:43 pm

Somebody's gotta say it, so I will.

If it was the cleaners, no worry, they've all had background checks.

However, out of an abundance of caution, they'll be stepping up TSA gate searches. ;)

lovexylitol Jan 16, 2012 8:48 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 17827093)
However, out of an abundance of caution, they'll be stepping up TSA gate searches. ;)

I already think about 33% of my flights are getting "random gate checks", to step up would be 100%! :mad: (all they do is glance at my ID).

Karen2 Jan 16, 2012 9:05 pm

It was not certain that it was the cleaners. They "thought" it was the cleaners. They did not clarify their guess. If they knew for certain, it might be another thing but they just discovered it that morning and were only surmising.

N830MH Jan 16, 2012 9:15 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 17827093)
Somebody's gotta say it, so I will.

If it was the cleaners, no worry, they've all had background checks.

However, out of an abundance of caution, they'll be stepping up TSA gate searches. ;)

I believe you're absolutely right. They have required fingerprinted screening before they allow come to work. Must be 100% screening all airlines employees to runs the background checks.

sbrower Jan 16, 2012 9:45 pm

Until a few years ago (okay, maybe 30) you could go to the airport at night and walk onto the field and walk up the maintenance stairs into the parked planes and look around. (This was at LAX, not just some little corn field.) I don't remember any problems with that system.

chollie Jan 16, 2012 10:54 pm


Originally Posted by sbrower (Post 17827367)
Until a few years ago (okay, maybe 30) you could go to the airport at night and walk onto the field and walk up the maintenance stairs into the parked planes and look around. (This was at LAX, not just some little corn field.) I don't remember any problems with that system.

Nobody ever tried to climb into the cockpit on the pitot tubes? :p

Global_Hi_Flyer Jan 17, 2012 6:25 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 17827093)
However, out of an abundance of caution, they'll be stepping up TSA gate searches. ;)

Exactly. Someone's got to pay, might as well be the passengers. :rolleyes:

mahohmei Jan 17, 2012 12:13 pm

How are airplanes parked overnight? Door closed and jet bridge not touching? And how easy/hard would it be for an unskilled cleaning crew member to "break in" to the airplane?

I'm assuming that this sort of "break-in" would be far more complicated than the a drug addict with a tire iron in a hotel parking lot.


Originally Posted by Karen2 (Post 17826732)
Yesterday at MIA, our plane (flight 465 to ORD) was broken into during the night and the alcohol stolen. After a Dade County sheriff came on board to look it over, the gate agent glossed over the situation saying the on board staff thought maybe the cleaners took the drink bottles. However, quite a few passengers were very concerned about the possibility that someone entering the plane to steal could also bring something like a bomb on board also. I would say over 20 passengers bailed. Some came back when they learned that they would have a 2 1/2 day wait for another flight. Cruise passengers.

We saw no evidence that anyone was searching for unwanted items in the cabin. Between this and 2 mechanical issues, we thought UA should have flown in another plane for us. However, they spent 4 hours on repairs, etc and we departed and landed with no incident. Thank God.


N965VJ Jan 17, 2012 2:11 pm


Originally Posted by Karen2 (Post 17826732)
However, quite a few passengers were very concerned about the possibility that someone entering the plane to steal could also bring something like a bomb on board also. I would say over 20 passengers bailed.

Mad Bombers always steal the minis after they leave behind their bombs. It's in their union contract. :rolleyes:

Boggie Dog Jan 17, 2012 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by mahohmei (Post 17831076)
How are airplanes parked overnight? Door closed and jet bridge not touching? And how easy/hard would it be for an unskilled cleaning crew member to "break in" to the airplane?

I'm assuming that this sort of "break-in" would be far more complicated than the a drug addict with a tire iron in a hotel parking lot.


All large aircraft have emergency exits that can be opened from the outside. Now they may be blocked from inside the aircraft but I'm betting not all are.

Next time you're waiting at an airport try looking around the main cabin door of visible aircraft for a lock.

exbayern Jan 17, 2012 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by sbrower (Post 17827367)
Until a few years ago (okay, maybe 30) you could go to the airport at night and walk onto the field and walk up the maintenance stairs into the parked planes and look around. (This was at LAX, not just some little corn field.) I don't remember any problems with that system.

It's the same at MUC, except that one has to put a Euro coin into the slot before moving the turnstile.

(Oh, wait, that is actually the oldtimer vistor park at MUC :p )

4nsicdoc Jan 17, 2012 5:33 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 17827649)
Nobody ever tried to climb into the cockpit on the pitot tubes? :p

Only the TSA pulls a stunt like that.


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