goalie

i'm gonna call ymmv on this one. no offense to our resident tsa folks, but imho, it's gonna end up being "screener discretion" and y'all know how that usually goes..... (and besides, most pax don't know* or are not smaht <boston accent> enough* to keep their original/irrops bp when re-booked

*or are at least not f/t'ers )

oneofthosepeopleyouloveto hate

Well, not really! When I have to SSSS a passenger who doesn't fit the typical profile, I usually ask them if their flight was rebooked, and 99% percent of the time, that's the case. I then inform them that the airline agent COULD have removed the SSSS, and saved them the hassle, but didn't bother to do so ... and encourage them to keep that in mind next time they're in the market for a plane ticket.

Agreed.

It wouldn't be TSA folks making the call here; it would be the GA.

Only a few categories of folks with an SSSS can be exempted by TSOs -- for instance, young children flying with parents who aren't SSSS.

studentff

The airline checkin agents supposedly have the capability to remove SSSS for a re-booked pax when the pax presents their previous non-SSSS BP, but I'm not sure of the success rate for getting that accomplished.

gj83

Like I said upthread...when I've been rebooked on Delta or US and I see the SSSS on my rebooked BP I always ask the agent if they can reissue me a new BP without the SSSS. The agent always says "TSA selected you, I can't remove it" then TSA says "your airline has chosen you for additional screening". I know the latter is true, but others might not.

NY-FLA

Success rate? Without supervisor intervention, and a lot of b%@$ing, my success rate is zero. With US Air even with "supervisor" intervention and a lot of b%@$ing, my success rate is still zero.
SSSS appearing behind the circus tent that some continue to claim is a check-point? Never had an issue. Success rate for that, then is 100%

jetboyds

CAPPS rules and algorithms are governed and written by TSA, and airlines must implement them. The airline is doing it because they have to.

The rules quoted below are sort of true....The actual rule is if you are rebooked on the same day, due to something out of your control (like weather) the SSSS can be removed....IF the agent is knowledgeable, and has the original boarding pass. Of course, this rule is rather vague and not all airlines utilize it and some airlines reservations systems are more automated than others.

Lumpy

aviators99:

Do the right thing: turn yourself in to the nearest TSA CP for a voluntary SSSS additional screening. Yes, yes, it IS after the fact and all, but it's the right thing to do. Won't take long, and we'll all feel so much safer.

Better yet, see if TSA won't make a house call. I'll just bet they know where you live.

aviators99

If they make a house call, I guarantee they'll find something on me that's "disallowed".

Lumpy

HAHAHA! On me, it would be my copy of Colorado's "Make My Day" law.

dstan

Did this semi-successfully at CVG T2 on Mon after an AA involuntary reroute, misconnect, and reticketing on DL w/ SSSS, at the suggestion of the TSA ID-checker no less. WTMD TSO sent both sets of boarding passes to a supervisor(?) who supposedly deselected us and and told us to keep the new and old stapled together. However, our BPs still got flagged at the gate for "Random" security screening, which the GA managed to clear up (ignore) after our explanation.

Had no idea this was possible but will definitely remember for next time. Thanks to a TSO - whodathunkit?

Keywords: SSSS deselect reticket

nrr

I was flying lga-stl-las a few years ago, when I printed my bp's none of them were SSSS; in stl my upgrade cleared and that boarding pass did have SSSS, which the admirals club agent was able to suppress (I was airside). On my return trip las-dfw-lga, the las-dfw bp (inherited) the suppressed SSSS.

Spiff

The gate BP reader just beeps to remind the GA to check your BP to make sure you've received the TSA Seal of HaraSSSSment. That BP reader doesn't make any selections.

dstan

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Oh, I know. That's why "Random" was in quotes.

Bowgie

Last night, DL rebooked me to US on a LAS to LAX flight because of Delta's IRROP's on my previous flight segment. At the US ticket counter at LAS, I got two surprises from the agent: "You are booked in first class (even though I was paid coach on DL)", and "You have been selected for additional screening" Boarding pass said "Seat 1A" and had a big "SSSS" on it."

The ticket agent also said to make sure the TSA marked my boarding pass after completing secondary screenig. I imagine that was so the gate agent would not send me back if the TSA forgot to mark my boarding pass.

Anyway, the LAS TSA at least was polite and professional at the secondary screening. They made a big deal of saying (twice!) "The airline selected you for additional screen" (So don't blame us?)

I guess armed if the knowledge here, I could at least ask a ticketing agent to remove my SSSS if due to IRROPS.

iluv2fly

Four people were bumped last night from MSY-ORD on UA and put on the later AA flight. I was waiting in line for my AA boading pass and the pax in front of me (another bumpee) had a BP from AA spit out with "SSSS" on it. The agent, to his credit, crossed out the "SSSS" and put his initials by it and told the pax to ignore it. This is at an airport where the last time I was there did the randon gate screenings.

My BP came out without the "SSSS", perhaps because I had the agent enter my Platinum number.