TSA screener charged in kid porn case
Apr 23, 2011, 9:06 pm
#91
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,389
Bart, thank you for responding. I see a problem with a parent being present. The problem is that the TSO is completely in charge. That is one aspect of what I was referring to when I said "implementation". The TSO tells the parent where to stand (or orders the parent to to stand in a certain position), which limits the parents line of sight. If the parent moves out of position, the parent is threatened with a LEO and otherwise cowed into submission. That seems to be SOP. It's just one aspect of an implementation that is ripe for abuse.
I'd love to discuss the implementation, but that discussion will necessarily be limited by a lack of knowledge about the SOP.
I'd love to discuss the implementation, but that discussion will necessarily be limited by a lack of knowledge about the SOP.
Apr 23, 2011, 9:16 pm
#92
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 319
But how is this defined? We've never had a straight answer about what constitutes interfering with the screening process. Once again, I suspect the screener gets to decide what's interfering and what isn't. Once again, the parent has no real power in the situation.
Apr 23, 2011, 9:23 pm
#93
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,389
But how is this defined? We've never had a straight answer about what constitutes interfering with the screening process. Once again, I suspect the screener gets to decide what's interfering and what isn't. Once again, the parent has no real power in the situation.
Apr 23, 2011, 9:23 pm
#94
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW
Posts: 28,083
The problem is that you think its humorous to joke about the abusive Gropes that TSA inflicts on the public.
Apr 23, 2011, 9:25 pm
#95
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,389
Wow.
Apr 23, 2011, 9:48 pm
#96
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW
Posts: 28,083
There are some things that should not be the basis for humor.
Example, joking about a bomb in an airport wouldn't be considered funny would it Bart? In fact if a TSA employee overheard such I bet police would be called.
TSA Gropes are not funny, ever!
Apr 23, 2011, 9:56 pm
#97
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,389
I don't think I made any derogatory reference to a TSO but to a procedure that TSA uses on the public. Two very different things.
There are some things that should not be the basis for humor.
Example, joking about a bomb in an airport wouldn't be considered funny would it Bart? In fact if a TSA employee overheard such I bet police would be called.
TSA Gropes are not funny, ever!
There are some things that should not be the basis for humor.
Example, joking about a bomb in an airport wouldn't be considered funny would it Bart? In fact if a TSA employee overheard such I bet police would be called.
TSA Gropes are not funny, ever!
Well, I certainly learned a lot from this exchange.
Apr 23, 2011, 10:28 pm
#98
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: AA Gold AAdvantage Elite, Rapids Reward
Posts: 38,313
Yes, unfortunately, he was firing from his job and he won't accepted work for federal government anymore. I Was too ashamed what happened to him. He could go to prisons for existence rest his miserable life. He won't get a chance to find a new jobs.
Apr 23, 2011, 10:35 pm
#99
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,389
Can't say that I feel sorry for him.
Apr 23, 2011, 10:49 pm
#100
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: AA Gold AAdvantage Elite, Rapids Reward
Posts: 38,313
As I understand it, the process has just begun. From what I could glean from the article, he was the subject of a federal investigation, and they don't release public statements unless they have a solid case against the subject. There's too much money already invested to plea bargain it down to a lesser crime. That means that he's going to prison and become some Bubba's love child until he's old and bowlegged.
Can't say that I feel sorry for him.
Can't say that I feel sorry for him.
Apr 24, 2011, 12:01 am
#101
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: HNL
Programs: UA/Hawaiian/Marriott
Posts: 840
In the past six months 19 TSA employees have been arrested or convicted of serious crimes. TSA is currently on a pace to have 35-40 employees arrested by the end of the year. No other Federal agency, many of which are far larger, come close to this level of criminal conduct. Nor do similarly sized private sector companies have this level of criminal arrests among their employees. Have you heard of any Microsoft employees being arrested for job related crimes this year?
Do you have a link to those states....?
http://kotaku.com/#!5654739/microsof...g-a-schoolgirl
Last year....but none the less.....
Further, I've always been one to say you get what you pay for.....you pay people peanuts.....you aren't going to be getting the of the bunch that are out there looking for work.... Same with a lot of small town police agencies. They pay folks crap and the good ones leave while the crappy one stay around because they can't find work elsewhere......
Apr 24, 2011, 12:15 am
#103
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,728
Apr 24, 2011, 12:19 am
#104
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,728
A plan...
Why doesn't the TSA use their much-lauded (by the TSA) BDO program to weed out the thieves, child porn purveyors, rapists, and other "bad apples?"
It shouldn't take more than a month, given that they're supposed to be able to SPOT "bad intentions" via microexpressions in a matter of minutes.
Of course, any future crimes committed by TSA employees would represent a failure of the program. I'd even be willing to bet that putting the BDOs on the watch for criminal activity by TSA employees would not result in the slightest dip in crime rate by TSA employees, given that at least two headline cases in the last couple of months have involved BDOs in the first place - and their fellow BDOs didn't SPOT those, either.
It shouldn't take more than a month, given that they're supposed to be able to SPOT "bad intentions" via microexpressions in a matter of minutes.
Of course, any future crimes committed by TSA employees would represent a failure of the program. I'd even be willing to bet that putting the BDOs on the watch for criminal activity by TSA employees would not result in the slightest dip in crime rate by TSA employees, given that at least two headline cases in the last couple of months have involved BDOs in the first place - and their fellow BDOs didn't SPOT those, either.
Apr 24, 2011, 1:17 am
#105
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 150
Why doesn't the TSA use their much-lauded (by the TSA) BDO program to weed out the thieves, child porn purveyors, rapists, and other "bad apples?"
It shouldn't take more than a month, given that they're supposed to be able to SPOT "bad intentions" via microexpressions in a matter of minutes.
Of course, any future crimes committed by TSA employees would represent a failure of the program. I'd even be willing to bet that putting the BDOs on the watch for criminal activity by TSA employees would not result in the slightest dip in crime rate by TSA employees, given that at least two headline cases in the last couple of months have involved BDOs in the first place - and their fellow BDOs didn't SPOT those, either.
It shouldn't take more than a month, given that they're supposed to be able to SPOT "bad intentions" via microexpressions in a matter of minutes.
Of course, any future crimes committed by TSA employees would represent a failure of the program. I'd even be willing to bet that putting the BDOs on the watch for criminal activity by TSA employees would not result in the slightest dip in crime rate by TSA employees, given that at least two headline cases in the last couple of months have involved BDOs in the first place - and their fellow BDOs didn't SPOT those, either.
don't you already flip out when they find drug mules that it's not their job?